* [OT] Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers?
2003-01-01 3:56 ` A Guy Called Tyketto
@ 2003-01-01 5:17 ` J Sloan
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: J Sloan @ 2003-01-01 5:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: A Guy Called Tyketto; +Cc: linux-kernel
A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
>
> I have an SiS 315E card in my box, and it works great, and haven't
>looked at any other card since installing it.
>
>
Yeah but I can play quake 3 arena, unreal tournament,
and return to castle wolfenstein with my nvidia card,
and you can't do that with your sis card.
Good binary 3D drivers are way better than no 3D
drivers -
A microsoft-free 3D fps addict,
Joe
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* [OT] Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers?
2003-01-02 6:16 Hell.Surfers
@ 2003-01-02 6:34 ` Milosz Tanski
2003-01-02 13:28 ` Paul Jakma
2003-01-02 17:37 ` Alan Cox
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Milosz Tanski @ 2003-01-02 6:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: david.lang, paul, riel, linux-kernel, rms
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There is (was) an effort for opensource 3d drivers (including nvidia
ones), infact i rember they got quake II and III working in 32bit color
mode, if i rember correctly. If you go grieff, then go visit
http://utah-glx.sourceforge.net/ and help out. Make the drivers better
then the nvidia ones (ya right!) so they will be forced to use your code
on other paltforms (and then nvidia would be forced to use it, and thus
open up their code). I'll see you in two years, when you fully complete
the drivers? Ok, bye.
P.S: I think the code there is under a BSD (BSDish, MITish licence,
...).
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* [OT] Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers?
@ 2003-01-02 6:41 Hell.Surfers
2003-01-02 6:54 ` Milosz Tanski
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Hell.Surfers @ 2003-01-02 6:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mtanski, david.lang, paul, riel, linux-kernel, rms
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Sounds better... But still incorrectly licensed.
Dean McEwan, If the drugs don't work, [sarcasm] take more...[/sarcasm].
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:34:05 -0500 Milosz Tanski <mtanski@wideopenwest.com> wrote:
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There is (was) an effort for opensource 3d drivers (including nvidia
ones), infact i rember they got quake II and III working in 32bit color
mode, if i rember correctly. If you go grieff, then go visit
http://utah-glx.sourceforge.net/ and help out. Make the drivers better
then the nvidia ones (ya right!) so they will be forced to use your code
on other paltforms (and then nvidia would be forced to use it, and thus
open up their code). I'll see you in two years, when you fully complete
the drivers? Ok, bye.
P.S: I think the code there is under a BSD (BSDish, MITish licence,
....).
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* Re: [OT] Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers?
2003-01-02 6:41 [OT] Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? Hell.Surfers
@ 2003-01-02 6:54 ` Milosz Tanski
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Milosz Tanski @ 2003-01-02 6:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mtanski, david.lang, paul, riel, linux-kernel, rms
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Before jumping to conclusions, go check out the site, read the licences
etc. If i rember correctly some modules are under a BSD like licence
(correct me if i'm wrong). I don't think the utah-glx folk are using the
kernel (kernel modules), but i haven't looked close enouth at it (and
dosn't seam like you did too).
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* Re: [OT] Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers?
2003-01-02 6:34 ` [OT] " Milosz Tanski
@ 2003-01-02 13:28 ` Paul Jakma
2003-01-02 17:37 ` Alan Cox
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Paul Jakma @ 2003-01-02 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Milosz Tanski; +Cc: david.lang, riel, linux-kernel, rms
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Milosz Tanski wrote:
> be forced to use it, and thus open up their code). I'll see you in
> two years, when you fully complete the drivers? Ok, bye.
NVidia would not release the neccessary specs to the project to allow
them to write acceptable drivers. That is why they are so lacking -
but its amazing they even got that far.
> P.S: I think the code there is under a BSD (BSDish, MITish licence,
> ...).
XFree licence, yes. Which allows binary only modules.
regards
--
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* Re: [OT] Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers?
2003-01-02 6:34 ` [OT] " Milosz Tanski
2003-01-02 13:28 ` Paul Jakma
@ 2003-01-02 17:37 ` Alan Cox
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Alan Cox @ 2003-01-02 17:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Milosz Tanski; +Cc: david.lang, paul, riel, Linux Kernel Mailing List, rms
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 06:34, Milosz Tanski wrote:
> There is (was) an effort for opensource 3d drivers (including nvidia
> ones), infact i rember they got quake II and III working in 32bit color
> mode, if i rember correctly. If you go grieff, then go visit
> http://utah-glx.sourceforge.net/ and help out. Make the drivers better
> then the nvidia ones (ya right!) so they will be forced to use your code
> on other paltforms (and then nvidia would be forced to use it, and thus
> open up their code). I'll see you in two years, when you fully complete
> the drivers? Ok, bye.
>
> P.S: I think the code there is under a BSD (BSDish, MITish licence,
Utah-GLX supports the older Nvidia cards, and works in XFree86 4.2 at
least - although since its based on an older Mesa not all stuff works
well with it.
Alan
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