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From: grundler@cup.hp.com (Grant Grundler)
To: Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	davidm@hpl.hp.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: [patch 2.5] 2-pass PCI probing, generic part
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:07:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030110230731.GC23108@cup.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030111004239.A757@localhost.park.msu.ru>

On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 12:42:39AM +0300, Ivan Kokshaysky wrote:
> Eh? In general case, to make room for newly added device, you have
> to shutdown the whole PCI bus starting from level 0, reassign _all_
> BARs and bridge windows and then restart...

That might be true for x86. I'm pretty sure it's not true for the
parisc machines I'm familiar with. One "window" register is set to
a "default" at boot time by the firmware and behaves as you describe above.
But a *second* window register in the PCI controller was intended
for dynamic MMIO assignment in case the first one was too small.
The trick is to find MMIO space in the region already being routed
by the IOC (parent of the PCI controller). My point is a second
somewhat larger MMIO region can be routed to a few additional PCI
controllers given sufficient MMIO space.

Again, I believe HP's ia64 HW has leveraged this design but I haven't
checked specs. And methods to reprogram the window registers might
require firmware to do it instead of the OS.

> The "hotplug resource reservation" is the only viable approach, it has
> been discussed numerous times.

ok - I'll to look for those when the time comes.


> I believe 1GB is a theoretical maximum for a 32-bit BAR.

2GB. But my argument is enough "bigger" BARs may not work either.

grant

  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-10 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-19 21:37 PATCH 2.5.x disable BAR when sizing Grant Grundler
2002-12-20  2:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-12-20  2:27   ` David Mosberger
2002-12-20  6:05     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-20 19:50   ` Grant Grundler
2002-12-20 20:14     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-20 21:22       ` Grant Grundler
2002-12-21 18:34       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-12-20 20:37     ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-12-20 21:29       ` Grant Grundler
2002-12-20  5:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-20  9:42   ` David Mosberger
2002-12-20 12:53     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-12-20 17:05     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-20 18:26       ` David Mosberger
2002-12-20 19:28         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-21 22:06         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-12-21 22:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-22  7:15             ` Paul Mackerras
2002-12-22 15:03               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-12-22 19:21                 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-12-23  0:29                   ` Paul Mackerras
2002-12-23 15:26                     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-05 12:37                     ` [patch 2.5] PCI: allow alternative methods for probing the BARs Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-06  0:29                       ` Anton Blanchard
2003-01-06  4:14                       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-06  5:22                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-01-06 10:31                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-01-06 11:32                           ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-06 22:01                             ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-06 19:45                           ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-07 17:05                             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-07 17:46                               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-07 20:17                               ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-08 14:47                                 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-08 22:34                                   ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-06 15:33                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-06 21:52                           ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-06 23:19                             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-07  0:13                               ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-07 12:33                                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-07 17:27                                   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-07 18:46                                     ` Alan Cox
2003-01-07 17:44                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-08 16:55                                     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 17:46                                     ` [patch 2.5] 2-pass PCI probing, generic part Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 17:52                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-01-09 22:09                                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 22:16                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-09 22:26                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-01-10  3:49                                               ` Alan Cox
2003-01-09 23:19                                             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 23:35                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-10  1:09                                                 ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-10  7:56                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-01-10 19:00                                                     ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-10 21:42                                                       ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-10 23:07                                                         ` Grant Grundler [this message]
2003-01-11 19:39                                                         ` Scott Murray
2003-01-12  7:19                                                           ` Greg KH
2003-01-13  6:28                                                             ` Scott Murray
2003-01-10 13:35                                                 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-14 16:39                                                   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 18:36                                       ` David Mosberger
2003-01-09 19:52                                       ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-09 22:40                                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 17:48                                     ` [patch 2.5] 2-pass PCI probing, hotplug changes Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-09 17:51                                     ` [patch 2.5] 2-pass PCI probing, i386 USB quirk Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-07 17:12                                 ` [patch 2.5] PCI: allow alternative methods for probing the BARs Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-01-07 17:06                             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-12-22 19:51               ` PATCH 2.5.x disable BAR when sizing Linus Torvalds
2002-12-22 19:57                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-12-22 10:38             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-12-22 18:39               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-12-22 19:47                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-12-22 21:05                   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-12-20 18:50       ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-12-20 19:11         ` Linus Torvalds

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