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From: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>
To: robw@optonline.net
Cc: torvalds@transmeta.com, hch@infradead.org, greg@kroah.com,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, wli@holomorphy.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Coding style - (Was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:11:46 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200301122311.h0CNBkE1001677@darkstar.example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1042404503.1208.95.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com> from "Rob Wilkens" at Jan 12, 2003 03:48:24 PM

[Most of a discussion about coding style removed]

> As someone else pointed out, it's provable that goto isn't needed, and
> given that C is a minimalist language, I'm not sure why it was included.

It's worth keeping in mind, when coding in *any* language, that
concepts such as loops, functions, and any kind of 'structured'
programming, are all completely artificial concepts.

Microprocessors are essentially based around:

Loading discrete values to registers.
Loading discrete values into memory locations.
Copying a value from a register or a memory location, to another
register or a memory location.
Pushing and poping values on to and off of the stack.
Jumping to another location based on whether a register contains zero
or a non zero value.

The only thing that can really be considered anything like structured
programming is the stack, (and possibly interupts).

> But at least the code is "readable" when you do that.

Assember for a simple microprocessor such as a Z80 is arguable easier
to understand than C source code for something like the Linux kernel.

It's not the language, or how it is indented, that determines how
difficult code is to read.  It's the logic in the code.

John.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-01-12 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 173+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-10 16:10 any chance of 2.6.0-test*? William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-10 16:28 ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 16:41   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-10 17:08     ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 17:19 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-10 16:40   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-10 17:06   ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 17:25     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-10 17:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-10 18:47       ` J.A. Magallon
2003-01-10 19:37         ` Matthew D. Pitts
2003-01-10 19:51         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-14  1:39       ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-01-15 21:46         ` [PATCH][RESEND w/ reasonable Subject] alsa before oss in Kconfig James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-01-10 18:16     ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Alan Cox
2003-01-10 17:37   ` Jochen Friedrich
2003-01-10 17:38     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12  9:27   ` Greg KH
2003-01-12 16:55     ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 17:05     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 17:17       ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-12 19:15         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 19:34           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:37             ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:53               ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 20:03                 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 15:43                   ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 15:49                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 16:25                       ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 16:26                         ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 16:41                           ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 16:43                             ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 17:00                               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-13 18:48                                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 22:14                                   ` Keith Owens
2003-01-13 22:42                                     ` John Levon
2003-01-13 22:49                                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-13 23:32                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-13 23:43                                       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-12 20:44                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 21:22                   ` David Woodhouse
2003-01-12 20:45                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-13 13:14                   ` Bernd Schmidt
2003-01-18 13:04                 ` Folkert van Heusden
2003-01-12 19:38             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 19:59               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:18                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-12 20:23                   ` yodaiken
2003-01-12 20:26                   ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 20:32                   ` Sean Neakums
2003-01-12 20:51                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-13  0:54                     ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-12 20:46                   ` Kevin Puetz
2003-01-13  0:48                   ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-18 13:07                   ` Folkert van Heusden
2003-01-12 20:20                 ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 20:33                   ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 20:33                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 10:54                       ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-13 11:09                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-01-13 14:34                         ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 23:23                         ` Bob Taylor
2003-01-12 20:48                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:59                     ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-01-12 22:48                     ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? -> goto example Willy Tarreau
2003-01-13  0:53                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  1:31                         ` Willy Tarreau
2003-01-13 16:10                           ` Alexander Kellett
2003-01-14 10:36                             ` Helge Hafting
2003-01-12 23:11                     ` John Bradford [this message]
2003-01-13 11:07                     ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Helge Hafting
2003-01-13  3:30                   ` yodaiken
2003-01-12 21:29                 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-13  0:03                 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-01-13  0:38                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  3:06                     ` [OT] " J Sloan
2003-01-13 16:51                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13  0:38                 ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-12 19:41             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-12 19:41               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:58                 ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:07                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:31                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 20:34                     ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:31             ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 21:02               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:15             ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-12 21:27               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:40                 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 21:44                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:49                     ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:07                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:18                         ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:34                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:52                             ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 23:11                               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:31                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:39                                 ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:46                                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:57                                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13  0:08                                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 16:02                                         ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-12 22:53                             ` Sean Neakums
2003-01-12 23:06                             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:48                             ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 21:58                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 22:12                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:29                         ` Olivier Galibert
2003-01-12 23:21                         ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 22:12                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:18                       ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:35                         ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  8:15                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-12 21:49                 ` David Ford
2003-01-13 19:22                   ` [OffTopic] [apology] " Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:59                 ` Adam Kropelin
2003-01-12 22:21                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:33                     ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 22:36                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 22:38                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:42                     ` romieu
2003-01-13  1:06                     ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-13  1:21                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  1:51                         ` Nuno Monteiro
2003-01-13  2:19                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  2:51                             ` Marcelo Pacheco
2003-01-13  3:37                               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  4:53                               ` Billy Rose
2003-01-13  3:06                             ` Jochen Striepe
2003-01-13  3:40                               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  9:45                             ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-13  3:48                         ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-13  4:37                   ` Billy Rose
2003-01-12 22:06                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:22                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:43                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:51                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:00                         ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 23:16                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:16                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-01-12 23:05                         ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:23                           ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:45                             ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:45                             ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13 20:01                             ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-12 23:16                         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-13  2:00                         ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-13  3:09                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-14  2:13                             ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 22:58                     ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 22:28                 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-13  1:26                 ` David Lang
2003-01-13  2:00                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-13 11:08                 ` How to avoid the woord 'goto' (was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?) Bernd Petrovitsch
2003-01-13 14:56                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 22:02                 ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Val Henson
2003-01-13 10:32             ` gotos in kernel [Was: Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?] Horst von Brand
2003-01-13 14:53               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 13:08             ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Dave Jones
2003-01-13 13:40               ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-13 13:49               ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-14  6:52               ` Bruce Harada
2003-01-14  7:12                 ` Brian Tinsley
2003-01-13 15:23             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-13  6:23           ` Greg KH
2003-01-13 16:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 18:33               ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13 18:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 19:17                 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-12 17:37       ` Russell King
2003-01-13  1:08 ` Michael Kingsbury
2003-01-13  1:52   ` William Lee Irwin III

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