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From: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fixing the tty layer was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 12:11:31 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030113064131.GB14996@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3iswuk7xm.fsf_-_@averell.firstfloor.org>

On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 09:59:15AM +0000, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > I've looked into this, and wow, it's not a simple fix :(

Oh, yes, I have spent hours and hours trying to untangle tty locking
and it isn't simple.

> 
> it has to be fixed for 2.6, no argument.
> 
> I took a look at it. I think the easiest strategy would be:
> 
> - Make sure all the process context code holds BKL
> (most of it does, but not all - sometimes it is buggy like in 
> disassociate_tty) 
> I have some patches for that for tty_io.c at least

What does that BKL protect ? I can't seem to ever figure our if
all the races are plugged or not.

> 
> The local_irq_save in there are buggy, they need to take 
> a lock.

Also a locking model w.r.t. the serial drivers ?

> 
> - Audit the data structures that are touched by interrupts
> and add spinlocks.
> At least for n_tty.c probably just tty->read_lock needs to be 
> extended.
> Perhaps some can be just "fixed" by ignoring latency and pushing
> softirq functions into keventd
> (modern CPUs should be fast enough for that) 
> 
> - Possibly disable module unloading for ldiscs (seems to be rather broken,
> although Rusty's new unload algorithm may avoid the worst - not completely
> sure)
> 
> Probably all doable with some concentrated effort.
> 
> Anyone interested in helping ?

Yes, I would like to help out. I was hoping to help rewrite the whole
thing in 2.7, but it needs help *now*. Perhaps I can take your list
of things to do and fix them as a starting point ?

Thanks
Dipankar

  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-13  6:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20030110165441$1a8a@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030110165505$38d9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-11 12:27   ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 13:01     ` Russell King
2003-01-11 13:13       ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 14:39     ` Alan Cox
2003-01-11 14:06       ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 15:31         ` Alan Cox
2003-01-11 15:25           ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 19:18             ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13  3:33               ` Paul Mackerras
2003-01-13 14:59                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13 18:36                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-01-14  2:32                   ` ide-cs problem (was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?) Paul Mackerras
2003-01-19 16:05         ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Pavel Machek
     [not found]   ` <20030112094007$1647@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-12  9:56     ` Fixing the tty layer was " Andi Kleen
2003-01-13  6:41       ` Dipankar Sarma [this message]
2003-01-13  7:25         ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-13  8:12           ` Dipankar Sarma
2003-01-13  9:15             ` Russell King
2003-01-13  9:36               ` Dipankar Sarma
2003-01-13  6:45       ` Greg KH

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