From: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fixing the tty layer was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 12:11:31 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030113064131.GB14996@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3iswuk7xm.fsf_-_@averell.firstfloor.org>
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 09:59:15AM +0000, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > I've looked into this, and wow, it's not a simple fix :(
Oh, yes, I have spent hours and hours trying to untangle tty locking
and it isn't simple.
>
> it has to be fixed for 2.6, no argument.
>
> I took a look at it. I think the easiest strategy would be:
>
> - Make sure all the process context code holds BKL
> (most of it does, but not all - sometimes it is buggy like in
> disassociate_tty)
> I have some patches for that for tty_io.c at least
What does that BKL protect ? I can't seem to ever figure our if
all the races are plugged or not.
>
> The local_irq_save in there are buggy, they need to take
> a lock.
Also a locking model w.r.t. the serial drivers ?
>
> - Audit the data structures that are touched by interrupts
> and add spinlocks.
> At least for n_tty.c probably just tty->read_lock needs to be
> extended.
> Perhaps some can be just "fixed" by ignoring latency and pushing
> softirq functions into keventd
> (modern CPUs should be fast enough for that)
>
> - Possibly disable module unloading for ldiscs (seems to be rather broken,
> although Rusty's new unload algorithm may avoid the worst - not completely
> sure)
>
> Probably all doable with some concentrated effort.
>
> Anyone interested in helping ?
Yes, I would like to help out. I was hoping to help rewrite the whole
thing in 2.7, but it needs help *now*. Perhaps I can take your list
of things to do and fix them as a starting point ?
Thanks
Dipankar
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Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20030110165441$1a8a@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030110165505$38d9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-11 12:27 ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 13:01 ` Russell King
2003-01-11 13:13 ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 14:39 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-11 14:06 ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 15:31 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-11 15:25 ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 19:18 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13 3:33 ` Paul Mackerras
2003-01-13 14:59 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13 18:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-01-14 2:32 ` ide-cs problem (was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?) Paul Mackerras
2003-01-19 16:05 ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20030112094007$1647@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-12 9:56 ` Fixing the tty layer was " Andi Kleen
2003-01-13 6:41 ` Dipankar Sarma [this message]
2003-01-13 7:25 ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-13 8:12 ` Dipankar Sarma
2003-01-13 9:15 ` Russell King
2003-01-13 9:36 ` Dipankar Sarma
2003-01-13 6:45 ` Greg KH
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