From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: terje.eggestad@scali.com
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 16:49:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030113154954.GR14017@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1042472605.5404.72.camel@pc-16.office.scali.no>
On Mon, Jan 13 2003, Terje Eggestad wrote:
> Considering that doing kernel development is hard enough, new
> development is almost always done on uni processors kernels that do only
> one thing at the time. Then when you base logic is OK, you move to a
> SMP, which means (adding and) debugging you spin locks.
Goto's aside, I find the above extremely bad advise. You should _always_
develop with smp and for smp from the very start, or you will most
likely not get it right later on. With preempt, this becomes even more
important.
> Considering that fucking up spin locks are prone to corrupting your
> machine, one very simple trick to makeing fewer mistakes to to have one,
> and only one, unlock for every lock.
Taking a spin lock twice will hard lock the machine, however on smp you
will typically have the luxury of an nmi watchdog which will help you
solve this quickly. Double unlock will oops immediately if you run with
spin lock debugging (you probably should, if you are developing kernel
code).
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-01-13 15:41 UTC|newest]
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2003-01-10 16:10 any chance of 2.6.0-test*? William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-10 16:28 ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 16:41 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-10 17:08 ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 17:19 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-10 16:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-10 17:06 ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 17:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-10 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-10 18:47 ` J.A. Magallon
2003-01-10 19:37 ` Matthew D. Pitts
2003-01-10 19:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-14 1:39 ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-01-15 21:46 ` [PATCH][RESEND w/ reasonable Subject] alsa before oss in Kconfig James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-01-10 18:16 ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Alan Cox
2003-01-10 17:37 ` Jochen Friedrich
2003-01-10 17:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 9:27 ` Greg KH
2003-01-12 16:55 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 17:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 17:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-12 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 19:34 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:37 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:53 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 20:03 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 15:43 ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 15:49 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2003-01-13 16:25 ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 16:26 ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 16:41 ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 16:43 ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 17:00 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-13 18:48 ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 22:14 ` Keith Owens
2003-01-13 22:42 ` John Levon
2003-01-13 22:49 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-13 23:32 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-13 23:43 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-12 20:44 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 21:22 ` David Woodhouse
2003-01-12 20:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-13 13:14 ` Bernd Schmidt
2003-01-18 13:04 ` Folkert van Heusden
2003-01-12 19:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 19:59 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:18 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-12 20:23 ` yodaiken
2003-01-12 20:26 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 20:32 ` Sean Neakums
2003-01-12 20:51 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-13 0:54 ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-12 20:46 ` Kevin Puetz
2003-01-13 0:48 ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-18 13:07 ` Folkert van Heusden
2003-01-12 20:20 ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 20:33 ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 20:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 10:54 ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-13 11:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-01-13 14:34 ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 23:23 ` Bob Taylor
2003-01-12 20:48 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:59 ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-01-12 22:48 ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? -> goto example Willy Tarreau
2003-01-13 0:53 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 1:31 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-01-13 16:10 ` Alexander Kellett
2003-01-14 10:36 ` Helge Hafting
2003-01-12 23:11 ` Coding style - (Was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?) John Bradford
2003-01-13 11:07 ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Helge Hafting
2003-01-13 3:30 ` yodaiken
2003-01-12 21:29 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-13 0:03 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-01-13 0:38 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 3:06 ` [OT] " J Sloan
2003-01-13 16:51 ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13 0:38 ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-12 19:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-12 19:41 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:58 ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:07 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 20:34 ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:31 ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 21:02 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:15 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-12 21:27 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:40 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 21:44 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:49 ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:07 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:18 ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:34 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:52 ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 23:11 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:39 ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:46 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:57 ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13 0:08 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 16:02 ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-12 22:53 ` Sean Neakums
2003-01-12 23:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:48 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 21:58 ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 22:12 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:29 ` Olivier Galibert
2003-01-12 23:21 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 22:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:18 ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:35 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 8:15 ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-12 21:49 ` David Ford
2003-01-13 19:22 ` [OffTopic] [apology] " Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:59 ` Adam Kropelin
2003-01-12 22:21 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:33 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 22:36 ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 22:38 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:42 ` romieu
2003-01-13 1:06 ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-13 1:21 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 1:51 ` Nuno Monteiro
2003-01-13 2:19 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 2:51 ` Marcelo Pacheco
2003-01-13 3:37 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 4:53 ` Billy Rose
2003-01-13 3:06 ` Jochen Striepe
2003-01-13 3:40 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 9:45 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-13 3:48 ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-13 4:37 ` Billy Rose
2003-01-12 22:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:22 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:43 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:51 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:00 ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 23:16 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:16 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-01-12 23:05 ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:45 ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:45 ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13 20:01 ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-12 23:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-13 2:00 ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-13 3:09 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-14 2:13 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 22:58 ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 22:28 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-13 1:26 ` David Lang
2003-01-13 2:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-13 11:08 ` How to avoid the woord 'goto' (was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?) Bernd Petrovitsch
2003-01-13 14:56 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 22:02 ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Val Henson
2003-01-13 10:32 ` gotos in kernel [Was: Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?] Horst von Brand
2003-01-13 14:53 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 13:08 ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Dave Jones
2003-01-13 13:40 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-13 13:49 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-14 6:52 ` Bruce Harada
2003-01-14 7:12 ` Brian Tinsley
2003-01-13 15:23 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-13 6:23 ` Greg KH
2003-01-13 16:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 18:33 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 19:17 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-12 17:37 ` Russell King
2003-01-13 1:08 ` Michael Kingsbury
2003-01-13 1:52 ` William Lee Irwin III
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2003-01-10 17:00 ` Dave Jones
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2003-01-11 13:01 ` Russell King
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2003-01-11 14:39 ` Alan Cox
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2003-01-11 15:31 ` Alan Cox
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2003-01-11 19:18 ` Alan Cox
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