From: Jerry Cooperstein <coop@axian.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] RMS and reactions to him
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:52:31 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030120165231.GA1301@p3.attbi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E18Zh8j-0000vf-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
Blah Blah Blah...
I normally stay away from these kinds of discussions, but I'm getting
pretty tired of this one.
It all reminds me of the 1960's and the anti-war (Vietnam) movement.
Just two points:
1) At demos in Washington DC, with hundreds of thousands of folks,
there were always groups of dogmatists standing around the edges
selling their newspapers. These were mostly either Trotskyites hawking
literature documenting their latest splits (which occurred on almost a
daily basis) or various Mickey-Maoists dissecting in very fine print
the latest speech from Enver Hoxha, the supreme fearless leader of
Albania.
Meanwhile tear gas was falling in the streets, many people were
undergoing truly dramatic and unforgettable experiences and the world
was changing. Real leaders were with the people in the streets,
listening AND guiding.
Some people think the highest form of struggle is between different
closets. They wouldn't notice an earthquake if they were having an
ideological debate.
2) A lot of folks were offended with Gillette introduced a
'revolutionary' razor-blade, or when the Doors, Jefferson Airplane,
Grateful Dead etc. were picked up in the mainstream media, "Hair"
opened on Broadway, etc.
You can't control how people use words and being co-opted may be
painful at times but it is a sign of success.
My PhD advisor once told me when I stormed into his office in a funk
because an idea of mine had been stolen without credit, something to
the effect that as long as you have good ideas they'll get stolen.
Your only defense is to keep generating more of them.
Let's all get back to work and stop this ....
-coop
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Jerry Cooperstein, Senior Consultant, <coop@axian.com>
Axian, Inc., Software Consulting and Training
4800 SW Griffith Dr., Ste. 202, Beaverton, OR 97005 USA
http://www.axian.com/
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2003-01-05 8:02 Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Albert D. Cahalan
2003-01-06 17:13 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-06 17:37 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-06 19:40 ` Steven Barnhart
2003-01-06 23:33 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 15:47 ` Disconnect
2003-01-07 13:40 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-07 14:26 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-08 8:00 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-08 13:51 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-09 23:14 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 23:24 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-11 0:21 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-10 5:33 ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-01-10 6:07 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-10 6:31 ` Miles Bader
2003-01-10 14:17 ` Charles Cazabon
2003-01-11 1:36 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11 4:06 ` John Jasen
2003-01-11 7:13 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-08 21:29 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-09 2:26 ` Vlad@Vlad.geekizoid.com
2003-01-09 8:57 ` John Alvord
2003-01-09 15:18 ` What's in a name? Vlad@Vlad.geekizoid.com
2003-01-09 16:11 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-09 16:51 ` venom
2003-01-09 17:48 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-10 9:52 ` Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Richard Stallman
2003-01-10 16:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-10 18:38 ` Names as origin component paths Mark Mielke
2003-01-10 18:41 ` Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Rogier Wolff
2003-01-12 11:55 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-12 12:27 ` Mark Mielke
2003-01-13 14:32 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-13 17:09 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-13 17:22 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-13 17:37 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-13 18:48 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-14 18:55 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-14 19:06 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-14 19:56 ` [OFFTOPIC] RMS and reactions to him Dax Kelson
2003-01-14 20:02 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-14 20:19 ` Olivier Galibert
2003-01-14 20:36 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-14 20:45 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-15 23:28 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-14 21:08 ` Mark Mielke
2003-01-14 21:51 ` Chris Funderburg
2003-01-14 22:13 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-14 22:27 ` Wakko Warner
2003-01-15 16:39 ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-16 23:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-01-15 23:28 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-16 2:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-01-18 0:47 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-18 0:56 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-19 1:36 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-19 5:55 ` Matthew D. Pitts
2003-01-18 3:01 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-01-18 14:23 ` andrea.glorioso
2003-01-20 0:50 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-20 1:46 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-01-21 18:17 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-21 18:30 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-21 18:55 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-07-20 2:42 ` Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
2003-07-20 19:30 ` Brian McGroarty
2003-07-20 22:00 ` Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
2003-01-16 5:23 ` Steve Lee
2003-01-18 0:47 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-20 13:38 ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-22 9:59 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-22 10:19 ` Paulo Andre'
2003-01-22 11:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-01-22 12:56 ` Dave Jones
2003-01-22 16:21 ` Mark Mielke
2003-01-23 11:37 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-23 13:17 ` Murray J. Root
2003-01-23 18:15 ` Vlad@Vlad.geekizoid.com
2003-01-24 0:41 ` [PATCH] [2.4.20] dead code: remove /proc/sys/vm/kswapd Lamont Granquist
2003-07-20 2:27 ` [OFFTOPIC] RMS and reactions to him Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
2003-07-20 8:09 ` Florian Weimer
2003-07-20 8:49 ` Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
2003-07-20 10:55 ` Wichert Akkerman
2003-07-20 21:52 ` Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
2003-07-20 22:09 ` Wichert Akkerman
2003-07-20 22:38 ` David Lloyd
2003-01-22 16:44 ` John Alvord
2003-01-23 1:31 ` Nick Matteo
2003-01-20 16:52 ` Jerry Cooperstein [this message]
2003-01-22 17:14 ` Jan Harkes
2003-01-14 20:27 ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-01-14 21:51 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-15 8:42 ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-01-14 21:42 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-15 12:47 ` Gaël Le Mignot
2003-01-14 20:15 ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-01-14 21:32 ` Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Andre Hedrick
2003-01-15 12:44 ` Gaël Le Mignot
2003-01-14 22:20 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2003-01-13 17:51 ` Mark Mielke
2003-01-14 18:54 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 23:14 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 23:39 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-10 0:01 ` Linux/Hurd vs GNU/Linux (was Re: Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently") Vlad@Vlad.geekizoid.com
2003-01-07 16:18 ` Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-01-08 2:29 ` Miles Bader
2003-01-09 7:20 ` "Mother" == "computer-illiterate" Val Henson
2003-01-09 8:05 ` J Sloan
2003-01-09 13:14 ` Miles Bader
2003-01-09 14:35 ` Kent Borg
2003-01-09 19:40 ` Val Henson
2003-01-09 20:21 ` jlnance
2003-01-09 20:30 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-10 1:34 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-09 20:46 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-01-09 21:12 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-09 21:11 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-01-12 11:56 ` Kristian Koehntopp
2003-01-09 23:11 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-09 22:41 ` John Adams
2003-01-10 1:24 ` Chris Adams
2003-01-10 2:15 ` jdow
2003-01-10 3:20 ` Val Henson
2003-01-10 4:23 ` Tom Diehl
2003-01-10 10:35 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-10 7:04 ` Tim Timmerman
2003-01-09 7:28 ` Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 6:44 ` Dimitrie O. Paun
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-14 20:53 [OFFTOPIC] RMS and reactions to him Dow, Benjamin
2003-01-14 22:14 Ed Vance
2003-01-14 22:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-14 22:54 ` Cort Dougan
2003-01-18 16:14 Thomas Hood
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