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From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Wim Coekaerts <Wim.Coekaerts@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][2.5] hangcheck-timer
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:40:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030121174001.GV20972@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030121125039.GA5997@codemonkey.org.uk>

On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:50:39PM +0000, Dave Jones wrote:
>  I'm puzzled. What does this do that softdog.c doesn't ?

	First, softdog.c requires userspace interaction.  Second, softdog.c
relies on jiffies.  If the system goes out to lunch via udelay() or
another hardware call that freezes the CPUs for a bit, jiffies does not
increment.  The system could be frozen for two minutes (qla2x00 used to
do this for 90 seconds) and softdog.c never notices, because jiffies
hasn't counted a single second during this time.

Joel


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Joel Becker
Senior Member of Technical Staff
Oracle Corporation
E-mail: joel.becker@oracle.com
Phone: (650) 506-8127

  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-21 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-21  1:19 [PATCH][2.5] hangcheck-timer Joel Becker
2003-01-21  8:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-21 17:33   ` Joel Becker
2003-01-21 18:44     ` [PATCH (take 2)][2.5] hangcheck-timer Joel Becker
2003-01-21 18:59       ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-21 19:48         ` Joel Becker
2003-01-21 19:56           ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-21 19:04       ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-01-21 12:50 ` [PATCH][2.5] hangcheck-timer Dave Jones
2003-01-21 17:40   ` Joel Becker [this message]
2003-01-21 17:42     ` Dave Jones
2003-01-21 18:42       ` Joel Becker
     [not found] <200301210135.h0L1ZFa06867@eng2.beaverton.ibm.com>
2003-01-21  1:42 ` john stultz
2003-01-21  2:00   ` Joel Becker
2003-01-21  2:45     ` john stultz
2003-01-21 17:29       ` Joel Becker
2003-01-21 20:03         ` john stultz
2003-01-21 20:30           ` Joel Becker

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