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From: Stefan Reinauer <stepan@suse.de>
To: Raphael Schmid <raphael@arrivingarrow.net>
Cc: "'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bootscreen
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:10:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030128121048.GB32488@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <398E93A81CC5D311901600A0C9F2928946936D@cubuss2>

* Raphael Schmid <Raphael_Schmid@CUBUS.COM> [030128 10:01]:
> It is my very understanding one can not have, conveniently it should be,
> a simple *bootscreen* under Linux. With that I mean a picture of at
> least 256 (indexed) colours at a size of 640x480 pixels. Doesn't have
> to be a higher resolution. And yes, I'm taking the standpoint that every
> computer nowadays [where this shall be possible] *can* do that resolution.

It's not too much to even state that almost any computer working with
Linux 2.4+ can do 800x600 or 1024x768. Anything below that can be
considered a special case, regarding the numbers out there. But that
does not influence the possibility of using a bootsplash graphics. 
On a system you can't use it properly, you probably also would not 
want it (i.e. use normal text mode boot instead of a framebuffer
driver)
 
> Framebuffer, I hear people shouting? Well. During the last *two days*,
> which includes one full night, I've been trying to get my v2.4.20 kernel
> to display such a bootscreen. All I get is segfaults. I've tried what I
> believe to be every tool out there: pnmtologo, fblogo, boot_logo, the
> GIMP plugin. You name them. None of which wouldn't have required any
> hacking to work with 2.4.20, by the way...

Have a look at ftp.suse.com/pub/people/stepan/bootsplash/ - There you
find kernel patches, user space utilities and such to display a
bootsplash screen. You can either choose to have a picture put "behind"
your text, or have a picture _instead_ of text. (triggerable with a 
boot parameter so anybody is happy). And yes, it _does_ look cool to see
your kernel messages scrolling up on a background of a slightly faded
out penguin, looking like a water sign. ;-)

> And maybe it's right, maybe I demand too much from the (VESA) framebuffer.
> Maybe my picture is also too complex, but I've tried simple ones as well.
> And anyway: I don't *want* any simple picture, I want as complex a picture
> as it gets. In 640x480. At 256 indexed colours.
My patch above includes a small and efficient jpeg decoder (8k), which
allows you to read any jpg picture from an initrd.

> I realize these ideas may sound kind of alien to you, but they make sense.
> Windows, MacOS all have bootscreens. There really is no way why Linux
> shouldn't.
 
It's not alien, and it does make sense. I, speaking for myself, know the
kernel boot messages by heart and I don't expect them to change with the
2957596. bootup of my linux box. ;)

Any comments?

   Stefan
  
-- 
The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be
regarded as a criminal offense.                      -- E. W. Dijkstra

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-01-28 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-28  9:01 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28  9:52 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 10:49 ` Bootscreen DervishD
2003-01-28 11:20 ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 11:44   ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 11:48     ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 12:15       ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 12:55       ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 13:09         ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 13:47           ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 14:06             ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:14               ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 14:33                 ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:32             ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:45               ` Bootscreen Jos Hulzink
2003-01-28 14:47                 ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:57                   ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 14:58                     ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 15:07                       ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 15:14                         ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 15:20                           ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 15:25                             ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-29 10:19                         ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-28 15:05                 ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 15:06                 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-29  9:57                 ` Module security [Was: Re: Bootscreen] Horst von Brand
2003-01-28 14:53               ` Bootscreen Oliver Neukum
2003-01-28 13:22         ` Bootscreen Jos Hulzink
2003-01-28 14:35         ` Bootscreen Rogier Wolff
2003-01-28 12:08     ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 12:17       ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:15       ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-28 18:46         ` Bootscreen H. Peter Anvin
2003-01-29  9:13         ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-29  9:35           ` Bootscreen Xavier Bestel
2003-01-29 13:19           ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-28 13:32   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 13:46     ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:38       ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 13:52     ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-29  8:06       ` Bootscreen Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-29 13:17         ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-29 15:48           ` Bootscreen Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-28 13:55     ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:28       ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:43         ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:45           ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 17:15     ` Bootscreen Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-28 12:10 ` Stefan Reinauer [this message]
2003-01-28 14:50   ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 15:07     ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 15:09     ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 17:41     ` Bootscreen Erik Mouw
2003-01-28 20:11       ` Bootscreen Arador
2003-01-28 21:13         ` Bootscreen Bernd Eckenfels
2003-01-28 17:48 ` Bootscreen Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-28 19:24   ` Bootscreen Ingo Oeser
2003-01-28 18:13 ` Bootscreen Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-28 18:21 ` Bootscreen Prasad
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-28 10:33 AW: AW: Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 10:52 ` John Bradford
2003-01-28 13:16   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
     [not found] <398E93A81CC5D311901600A0C9F29289469376@cubuss2>
2003-01-28 11:05 ` Bootscreen Alex Riesen
2003-01-28 11:38   ` Bootscreen Jos Hulzink
2003-01-28 13:13 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 14:35 ` Bootscreen Xavier Bestel
2003-01-30  7:25   ` Bootscreen Pavel Machek
2003-01-31 17:40     ` Bootscreen Jörn Engel
2003-01-31 17:45       ` Bootscreen Pavel Machek
2003-01-28 14:11 AW: Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 14:26 ` John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:48   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:29 ` AW: Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:59   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:34 ` Bootscreen jeff millar
2003-01-28 14:40   ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 16:41   ` Bootscreen Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-28 21:48 Bootscreen Balram Adlakha
2003-01-28 21:59 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-29 14:46 ` Bootscreen Denis Vlasenko
2003-01-29 19:52   ` Bootscreen Balram Adlakha
2003-01-30  6:53     ` Bootscreen Denis Vlasenko
2003-01-30 10:18       ` Bootscreen Bernd Eckenfels
2003-01-30 10:39     ` Bootscreen Helge Hafting
2003-01-30 13:54   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-29 15:09 ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-29  8:30 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-29  8:35 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-29 17:53 ` Bootscreen Arador
2003-01-29 13:59 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid

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