From: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>
To: rob@r-morris.co.uk (Robert Morris)
Cc: Raphael_Schmid@CUBUS.COM, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bootscreen
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:17:44 +0000 (GMT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200301281217.h0SCHi43000316@darkstar.example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0301281149070.20509-100000@schubert.rdns.com> from "Robert Morris" at Jan 28, 2003 12:08:26 PM
> > It's perfectly possible that somebody might want to make a television
> > set top box out of a standard x86 motherboard and VGA card, and not
> > have anything displayed until X starts, because the television would
> > not accept the standard VGA scanrate, but X can easily re-program that
> > to around 15 Khz.
>
> OK, but in this case you would have problems with BIOS output etc.
Yeah, I was thinking along the lines of having a simple colour bar
generator for when the VGA output wasn't in the valid frequency range,
but your idea is better as long as the custom BIOS was easily
do-able.
> And I question the approach of automatically deciding to hide startup
> output from the user, in any case. I can imagine a set-top box user on the
> phone to the support department saying "it gets to the Starting - Please
> Wait screen, then just hangs", which would then require an engineer visit,
> as opposed to, for example, "it says Obtaining IP Address... then hangs"
> which would give the support techie the opportunity to tell the user to
> check the ethernet cable is plugged in correctly, etc, before resorting to
> sending out an engineer.
I agree, but how many set top boxes are designed like that? I would
prefer verbose output, but it's generally hidden from end users :-(.
John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-01-28 12:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-01-28 9:01 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 9:52 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 10:49 ` Bootscreen DervishD
2003-01-28 11:20 ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 11:44 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 11:48 ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 12:15 ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 12:55 ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 13:09 ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 13:47 ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 14:06 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:14 ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley (Brad)
2003-01-28 14:33 ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:32 ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:45 ` Bootscreen Jos Hulzink
2003-01-28 14:47 ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:57 ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley (Brad)
2003-01-28 14:58 ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 15:07 ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley (Brad)
2003-01-28 15:14 ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 15:20 ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley (Brad)
2003-01-28 15:25 ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-29 10:19 ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-28 15:05 ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 15:06 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-29 9:57 ` Module security [Was: Re: Bootscreen] Horst von Brand
2003-01-28 14:53 ` Bootscreen Oliver Neukum
2003-01-28 13:22 ` Bootscreen Jos Hulzink
2003-01-28 14:35 ` Bootscreen Rogier Wolff
2003-01-28 12:08 ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 12:17 ` John Bradford [this message]
2003-01-28 14:15 ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-28 18:46 ` Bootscreen H. Peter Anvin
2003-01-29 9:13 ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-29 9:35 ` Bootscreen Xavier Bestel
2003-01-29 13:19 ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-28 13:32 ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 13:46 ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:38 ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 13:52 ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-29 8:06 ` Bootscreen Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-29 13:17 ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-29 15:48 ` Bootscreen Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-28 13:55 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:28 ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:43 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:45 ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 17:15 ` Bootscreen Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-28 12:10 ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:50 ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 15:07 ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 15:09 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 17:41 ` Bootscreen Erik Mouw
2003-01-28 20:11 ` Bootscreen Arador
2003-01-28 21:13 ` Bootscreen Bernd Eckenfels
2003-01-28 17:48 ` Bootscreen Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-28 19:24 ` Bootscreen Ingo Oeser
2003-01-28 18:13 ` Bootscreen Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-28 18:21 ` Bootscreen Prasad
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-28 10:33 AW: AW: Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 10:52 ` John Bradford
2003-01-28 13:16 ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
[not found] <398E93A81CC5D311901600A0C9F29289469376@cubuss2>
2003-01-28 11:05 ` Bootscreen Alex Riesen
2003-01-28 11:38 ` Bootscreen Jos Hulzink
2003-01-28 13:13 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 14:35 ` Bootscreen Xavier Bestel
2003-01-30 7:25 ` Bootscreen Pavel Machek
2003-01-31 17:40 ` Bootscreen Jörn Engel
2003-01-31 17:45 ` Bootscreen Pavel Machek
2003-01-28 14:11 AW: Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 14:26 ` John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:48 ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:29 ` AW: Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:59 ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:34 ` Bootscreen jeff millar
2003-01-28 14:40 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 16:41 ` Bootscreen Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-28 21:48 Bootscreen Balram Adlakha
2003-01-28 21:59 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-29 14:46 ` Bootscreen Denis Vlasenko
2003-01-29 19:52 ` Bootscreen Balram Adlakha
2003-01-30 6:53 ` Bootscreen Denis Vlasenko
2003-01-30 10:18 ` Bootscreen Bernd Eckenfels
2003-01-30 10:39 ` Bootscreen Helge Hafting
2003-01-30 13:54 ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-29 15:09 ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-29 8:30 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-29 8:35 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-29 17:53 ` Bootscreen Arador
2003-01-29 13:59 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
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