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From: Jos Hulzink <josh@stack.nl>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Wichert Akkerman <wichert@wiggy.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bootscreen
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 14:22:25 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030128140304.L28692-100000@snail.stack.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1043758528.8100.35.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk>

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Alan Cox wrote:

> On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 11:48, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > Kiosks and things like ATMs are another place where you do not want
> > a bootscreen. You do not want to possibly confuse customers with
> > stuff that they can't understand but show a nice friendly message saying
> > 'the system is currently unavailable'.
>
> The real question is whether you want to do this in the kernel or simply at
> the moment the kernel flips to user space. An init can easily open vt2,
> draw a pretty boot screen with something like nanogui or bogl and then
> continue to spew the text to vt1 so anyone can see the text messages if
> need be.
>

I agree with you that it's not the kernels main task to draw logos, though
it might be a little late to handle it in init. 2.4 kernels take quite
some time before entering init. True, 2.5 kernels are a lot faster
already, but, take an embedded device: all drivers might be built into the
kernel, and when the kernel is entering init, most stuff is done already.

Besides: There is no need for a user to see that the kernel detected the
CPU again. Maybe the kernel messages should automagically show up in case
of errors, and flip away the logo. Of course this implies the logo is
handled completely by the kernel.

I think you are mostly done by tweaking some fbcon code, it has
implemented some logo code already.

Jos


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-01-28 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-28  9:01 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28  9:52 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 10:49 ` Bootscreen DervishD
2003-01-28 11:20 ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 11:44   ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 11:48     ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 12:15       ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 12:55       ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 13:09         ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 13:47           ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 14:06             ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:14               ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 14:33                 ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:32             ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:45               ` Bootscreen Jos Hulzink
2003-01-28 14:47                 ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:57                   ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 14:58                     ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 15:07                       ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 15:14                         ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 15:20                           ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 15:25                             ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-29 10:19                         ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-28 15:05                 ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 15:06                 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-29  9:57                 ` Module security [Was: Re: Bootscreen] Horst von Brand
2003-01-28 14:53               ` Bootscreen Oliver Neukum
2003-01-28 13:22         ` Jos Hulzink [this message]
2003-01-28 14:35         ` Bootscreen Rogier Wolff
2003-01-28 12:08     ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 12:17       ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:15       ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-28 18:46         ` Bootscreen H. Peter Anvin
2003-01-29  9:13         ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-29  9:35           ` Bootscreen Xavier Bestel
2003-01-29 13:19           ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-28 13:32   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 13:46     ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:38       ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 13:52     ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-29  8:06       ` Bootscreen Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-29 13:17         ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-29 15:48           ` Bootscreen Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-28 13:55     ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:28       ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:43         ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:45           ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 17:15     ` Bootscreen Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-28 12:10 ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:50   ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 15:07     ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 15:09     ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 17:41     ` Bootscreen Erik Mouw
2003-01-28 20:11       ` Bootscreen Arador
2003-01-28 21:13         ` Bootscreen Bernd Eckenfels
2003-01-28 17:48 ` Bootscreen Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-28 19:24   ` Bootscreen Ingo Oeser
2003-01-28 18:13 ` Bootscreen Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-28 18:21 ` Bootscreen Prasad
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-28 10:33 AW: AW: Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 10:52 ` John Bradford
2003-01-28 13:16   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
     [not found] <398E93A81CC5D311901600A0C9F29289469376@cubuss2>
2003-01-28 11:05 ` Bootscreen Alex Riesen
2003-01-28 11:38   ` Bootscreen Jos Hulzink
2003-01-28 13:13 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 14:35 ` Bootscreen Xavier Bestel
2003-01-30  7:25   ` Bootscreen Pavel Machek
2003-01-31 17:40     ` Bootscreen Jörn Engel
2003-01-31 17:45       ` Bootscreen Pavel Machek
2003-01-28 14:11 AW: Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 14:26 ` John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:48   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:29 ` AW: Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:59   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:34 ` Bootscreen jeff millar
2003-01-28 14:40   ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 16:41   ` Bootscreen Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-28 21:48 Bootscreen Balram Adlakha
2003-01-28 21:59 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-29 14:46 ` Bootscreen Denis Vlasenko
2003-01-29 19:52   ` Bootscreen Balram Adlakha
2003-01-30  6:53     ` Bootscreen Denis Vlasenko
2003-01-30 10:18       ` Bootscreen Bernd Eckenfels
2003-01-30 10:39     ` Bootscreen Helge Hafting
2003-01-30 13:54   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-29 15:09 ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-29  8:30 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-29  8:35 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-29 17:53 ` Bootscreen Arador
2003-01-29 13:59 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid

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