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From: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>
To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Cc: wichert@wiggy.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bootscreen
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 14:06:30 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200301281406.h0SE6U1t000751@darkstar.example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1043761632.1316.67.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> from "Alan Cox" at Jan 28, 2003 01:47:13 PM

> > It takes a while before the kernel starts init though, especially if you
> > have things like SCSI controllers to initialise. If you do not use fb
> > you can have your bootloader setup a pretty bootscreen, but if you need
> > fb I don't see how you can prevent the textscreen with kernel messages.
> 
> I'd not really pondered people who compile many drivers into their kernel
> instead of into the initrd. I guess a few people still do that.

I don't usually compile support for modules in at all, and even on
486s the boot time isn't *that' long.  30 Seconds or so on a 4 Mb RAM,
486 SX 20 for a complete boot, only about half than until init starts.

I personally don't think a few seconds of text mode is a major
problem.

What I'm wondering is how long it will be before text mode is no
longer implemented in VGA cards at all.  Once the BIOS stops using it,
who needs it anymore?

John

  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-28 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-28  9:01 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28  9:52 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 10:49 ` Bootscreen DervishD
2003-01-28 11:20 ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 11:44   ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 11:48     ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 12:15       ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 12:55       ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 13:09         ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 13:47           ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 14:06             ` John Bradford [this message]
2003-01-28 14:14               ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 14:33                 ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:32             ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:45               ` Bootscreen Jos Hulzink
2003-01-28 14:47                 ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:57                   ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 14:58                     ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 15:07                       ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 15:14                         ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 15:20                           ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 15:25                             ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-29 10:19                         ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-28 15:05                 ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 15:06                 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-29  9:57                 ` Module security [Was: Re: Bootscreen] Horst von Brand
2003-01-28 14:53               ` Bootscreen Oliver Neukum
2003-01-28 13:22         ` Bootscreen Jos Hulzink
2003-01-28 14:35         ` Bootscreen Rogier Wolff
2003-01-28 12:08     ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 12:17       ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:15       ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-28 18:46         ` Bootscreen H. Peter Anvin
2003-01-29  9:13         ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-29  9:35           ` Bootscreen Xavier Bestel
2003-01-29 13:19           ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-28 13:32   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 13:46     ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:38       ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 13:52     ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-29  8:06       ` Bootscreen Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-29 13:17         ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-29 15:48           ` Bootscreen Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-28 13:55     ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:28       ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:43         ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:45           ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 17:15     ` Bootscreen Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-28 12:10 ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:50   ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 15:07     ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 15:09     ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 17:41     ` Bootscreen Erik Mouw
2003-01-28 20:11       ` Bootscreen Arador
2003-01-28 21:13         ` Bootscreen Bernd Eckenfels
2003-01-28 17:48 ` Bootscreen Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-28 19:24   ` Bootscreen Ingo Oeser
2003-01-28 18:13 ` Bootscreen Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-28 18:21 ` Bootscreen Prasad
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-28 10:33 AW: AW: Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 10:52 ` John Bradford
2003-01-28 13:16   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
     [not found] <398E93A81CC5D311901600A0C9F29289469376@cubuss2>
2003-01-28 11:05 ` Bootscreen Alex Riesen
2003-01-28 11:38   ` Bootscreen Jos Hulzink
2003-01-28 13:13 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 14:35 ` Bootscreen Xavier Bestel
2003-01-30  7:25   ` Bootscreen Pavel Machek
2003-01-31 17:40     ` Bootscreen Jörn Engel
2003-01-31 17:45       ` Bootscreen Pavel Machek
2003-01-28 14:11 AW: Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 14:26 ` John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:48   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:29 ` AW: Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:59   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:34 ` Bootscreen jeff millar
2003-01-28 14:40   ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 16:41   ` Bootscreen Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-28 21:48 Bootscreen Balram Adlakha
2003-01-28 21:59 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-29 14:46 ` Bootscreen Denis Vlasenko
2003-01-29 19:52   ` Bootscreen Balram Adlakha
2003-01-30  6:53     ` Bootscreen Denis Vlasenko
2003-01-30 10:18       ` Bootscreen Bernd Eckenfels
2003-01-30 10:39     ` Bootscreen Helge Hafting
2003-01-30 13:54   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-29 15:09 ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-29  8:30 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-29  8:35 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-29 17:53 ` Bootscreen Arador
2003-01-29 13:59 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid

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