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From: Jos Hulzink <josh@stack.nl>
To: Wichert Akkerman <wichert@wiggy.net>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bootscreen
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:45:45 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030128153533.X28781-100000@snail.stack.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030128143235.GY4868@wiggy.net>

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Agreed - what you probably want to do is have a minimal kernel that
> boots an initrd which loads modules for the rest. If the kernel is
> small enough you don't care for its boot messages: if it fails the
> hardware is screwed and your box has to be repaired (esp. if you are
> dealing with embedded/special purpose systems where the people using
> the box can't even see the hardware).

Why are you guys walking around the issue ? There are people demanding for
a feature, and they are marked as complete idiots. Linux is no kernel for
your computer only, it is a general purpose kernel, used in PDAs, set top
boxes, cars, mp3 players, servers, oh, and desktop computers. The nice
thing of features of the Linux kernel is that you can disable them if you
don't like them. I think the fbcon system is shit, so I disable it,
instead of telling everyone who uses it they are morons.

Oh, and using modules is a (minor) security issue. I have all my drivers
compiled in the kernel. I like it and it is secure.

Jos

  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-28 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-28  9:01 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28  9:52 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 10:49 ` Bootscreen DervishD
2003-01-28 11:20 ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 11:44   ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 11:48     ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 12:15       ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 12:55       ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 13:09         ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 13:47           ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 14:06             ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:14               ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 14:33                 ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:32             ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:45               ` Jos Hulzink [this message]
2003-01-28 14:47                 ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:57                   ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 14:58                     ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 15:07                       ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 15:14                         ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 15:20                           ` Bootscreen Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2003-01-28 15:25                             ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-29 10:19                         ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-28 15:05                 ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 15:06                 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-29  9:57                 ` Module security [Was: Re: Bootscreen] Horst von Brand
2003-01-28 14:53               ` Bootscreen Oliver Neukum
2003-01-28 13:22         ` Bootscreen Jos Hulzink
2003-01-28 14:35         ` Bootscreen Rogier Wolff
2003-01-28 12:08     ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 12:17       ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:15       ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-28 18:46         ` Bootscreen H. Peter Anvin
2003-01-29  9:13         ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-29  9:35           ` Bootscreen Xavier Bestel
2003-01-29 13:19           ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-28 13:32   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 13:46     ` Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:38       ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 13:52     ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-29  8:06       ` Bootscreen Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-29 13:17         ` Bootscreen Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-01-29 15:48           ` Bootscreen Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-28 13:55     ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:28       ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 14:43         ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:45           ` Bootscreen Wichert Akkerman
2003-01-28 17:15     ` Bootscreen Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-28 12:10 ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:50   ` Bootscreen Alan Cox
2003-01-28 15:07     ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 15:09     ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 17:41     ` Bootscreen Erik Mouw
2003-01-28 20:11       ` Bootscreen Arador
2003-01-28 21:13         ` Bootscreen Bernd Eckenfels
2003-01-28 17:48 ` Bootscreen Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-28 19:24   ` Bootscreen Ingo Oeser
2003-01-28 18:13 ` Bootscreen Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-28 18:21 ` Bootscreen Prasad
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-28 10:33 AW: AW: Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 10:52 ` John Bradford
2003-01-28 13:16   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
     [not found] <398E93A81CC5D311901600A0C9F29289469376@cubuss2>
2003-01-28 11:05 ` Bootscreen Alex Riesen
2003-01-28 11:38   ` Bootscreen Jos Hulzink
2003-01-28 13:13 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 14:35 ` Bootscreen Xavier Bestel
2003-01-30  7:25   ` Bootscreen Pavel Machek
2003-01-31 17:40     ` Bootscreen Jörn Engel
2003-01-31 17:45       ` Bootscreen Pavel Machek
2003-01-28 14:11 AW: Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-28 14:26 ` John Bradford
2003-01-28 14:48   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:29 ` AW: Bootscreen Robert Morris
2003-01-28 14:59   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-28 14:34 ` Bootscreen jeff millar
2003-01-28 14:40   ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-28 16:41   ` Bootscreen Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-28 21:48 Bootscreen Balram Adlakha
2003-01-28 21:59 ` Bootscreen John Bradford
2003-01-29 14:46 ` Bootscreen Denis Vlasenko
2003-01-29 19:52   ` Bootscreen Balram Adlakha
2003-01-30  6:53     ` Bootscreen Denis Vlasenko
2003-01-30 10:18       ` Bootscreen Bernd Eckenfels
2003-01-30 10:39     ` Bootscreen Helge Hafting
2003-01-30 13:54   ` Bootscreen Stefan Reinauer
2003-01-29 15:09 ` Bootscreen Horst von Brand
2003-01-29  8:30 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-29  8:35 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid
2003-01-29 17:53 ` Bootscreen Arador
2003-01-29 13:59 Bootscreen Raphael Schmid

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