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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Horst von Brand <brand@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
Cc: John Levon <levon@movementarian.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Module alias and device table support.
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 11:00:01 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030205001934.1C3BA2C6BA@lists.samba.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 04 Feb 2003 10:56:07 BST." <200302040956.h149u8IR021827@eeyore.valparaiso.cl>

In message <200302040956.h149u8IR021827@eeyore.valparaiso.cl> you write:
> Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> said:
> > "insmod foo" will *always* get foo.  The only exception is when "foo"
> > doesn't exist, in which case modprobe looks for another module which
> > explicitly says it can serve in the place of foo.
> 
> OK.
> 
> > This allows smooth transition when a driver is superceded, *if* the
> > new author wants it.
> 
> I would't let this happen, ever. What if foo does exist and Aunt Tillie
> just didn't compile it?

Then they turned the config option off themselves.

> > Now, the netlink module *knows* it provides char-major-36: with
> > MODULE_ALIAS() it can say so.
> 
> The "provides" is the missing clue... You are taking about "provides" (and
> mixing it up with "alias", something I still can't agree on), I'm talking
> about "alias". Maybe they should be separate? In your examples netlink
> _provides_ char-major-36, xyz3000 _provides_ binfmt-754, eepro100 _aliases_
> to eth0 here. First use is clearly in-kernel, second one is (or should
> always be IMVHO) out-of-kernel. Sure, could use the same infrastructure for
> simplicity.

That's a different debate.

This is how it works today, and how it has worked since before 2.2.
If you want to argue that another mechanism should be used instead,
that's a completely different issue (and not neccessarily something I
would disagree with, especially since hotplug is now a first class
citizen).

Rusty.
--
  Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-05  0:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-31  0:09 [PATCH] Module alias and device table support Rusty Russell
2003-01-31  6:23 ` Kai Germaschewski
2003-01-31  9:41   ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-31 15:42     ` Ingo Oeser
2003-01-31 22:33   ` Roman Zippel
2003-02-01  0:48     ` Kai Germaschewski
2003-02-01  1:22       ` Roman Zippel
2003-02-01  2:59         ` Kai Germaschewski
2003-02-01 10:31           ` Roman Zippel
2003-02-01  3:49   ` Rusty Russell
2003-02-01  7:20     ` Kai Germaschewski
2003-02-01 23:02     ` Horst von Brand
2003-02-03  0:52       ` Rusty Russell
2003-02-03  2:49         ` John Levon
2003-02-03 10:34           ` Rusty Russell
2003-02-04  9:56             ` Horst von Brand
2003-02-05  0:00               ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2003-02-03  8:31         ` Horst von Brand
2003-02-03 10:52           ` Rusty Russell
2003-02-04  8:05             ` Horst von Brand
2003-02-04  8:51               ` Rusty Russell
2003-02-06 23:09                 ` [PATCH] Restore module support Roman Zippel
2003-02-06 23:25                   ` Greg KH
2003-02-07  0:01                     ` Roman Zippel
2003-02-07  4:06                       ` Greg KH
2003-02-07  9:39                         ` Roman Zippel
2003-02-07 18:01                         ` Roman Zippel
2003-02-07  0:10                     ` Russell King
2003-02-07  4:53                       ` Rusty Russell
2003-02-07 10:03                         ` Russell King
2003-02-07  6:12                       ` Kai Germaschewski
2003-02-07  9:46                         ` Roman Zippel
2003-02-04 14:49               ` [PATCH] Module alias and device table support Roman Zippel
2003-02-03 13:40           ` Roman Zippel
     [not found] <20030201073007$5418@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030201073007$3e7f@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-02-01 10:36   ` Arnd Bergmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-04 17:25 Adam J. Richter
2003-02-04 17:45 Adam J. Richter
2003-02-05  0:17 ` Rusty Russell

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