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* pdflush in D state
@ 2003-02-05 23:12 Patrick Mau
  2003-02-06  7:41 ` Andrew Morton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Patrick Mau @ 2003-02-05 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux Kernel

Hi there,

I have a strange observation regarding the pdflush kernel threads.
My system has 512MB RAM. The behavior is independand of the filesystem
type in use. I have tested ext2, ext3 and reiserfs.

The scenario goes like this:

- Create a new filesystem on a spare partition.
  All other partitions on this disk are NTFS and
  not mounted.
  
- Copy the whole XFree source there.

- "sync ; sync ; sync" and wait a few minutes
  (I really tried waiting more than 5 minutes)
  
- now there are 400MB used by the page cache

- start the build with "make World"

XFree creates its Makefiles using "imake".
After that it tries to remove many non-existant files to clean
the source tree.

This goes extremly fast, but after a few seconds pdflush
gets stuck in D state and tries to write back dirty pages.
The machine is completly unresponsive and "top" reports
75 percent IO wait time. The actual build has not even started.

I have no idea what pdflush is trying to do ...
The files are already written and there is no other disk
activity involved. I even tried single-user mode.

The kernel is BK current 2.5.59, the machine is a P4@2.4 GHz.

Has somebody else observed this ?

cheers,
Patrick

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* Re: pdflush in D state
  2003-02-05 23:12 pdflush in D state Patrick Mau
@ 2003-02-06  7:41 ` Andrew Morton
  2003-02-06 12:37   ` Dave Jones
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2003-02-06  7:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Patrick Mau; +Cc: linux-kernel

Patrick Mau <mau@oscar.ping.de> wrote:
>
> This goes extremly fast, but after a few seconds pdflush
> gets stuck in D state and tries to write back dirty pages.
> The machine is completly unresponsive and "top" reports
> 75 percent IO wait time. The actual build has not even started.
> 

At a guess, I'd say that a disk device driver has dropped an interrupt and
I/O completion has not happened.

Check your kernel log and dmesg output for anything untoward, and then try
invoking sysrq-P and sysrq-T to find out where everythihg is stuck.


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* Re: pdflush in D state
  2003-02-06  7:41 ` Andrew Morton
@ 2003-02-06 12:37   ` Dave Jones
  2003-02-06 18:07     ` Robert Love
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dave Jones @ 2003-02-06 12:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: Patrick Mau, linux-kernel

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:41:39PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:

 > At a guess, I'd say that a disk device driver has dropped an interrupt and
 > I/O completion has not happened.
 > 
 > Check your kernel log and dmesg output for anything untoward, and then try
 > invoking sysrq-P and sysrq-T to find out where everythihg is stuck.

Unrelated to this problem, but it reminded me...
I've not heard any compelling arguments saying that these[1] patches
are wrong.

		Dave

[1] http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0301.1/2217.html

-- 
| Dave Jones.        http://www.codemonkey.org.uk
| SuSE Labs

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* Re: pdflush in D state
  2003-02-06 12:37   ` Dave Jones
@ 2003-02-06 18:07     ` Robert Love
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Robert Love @ 2003-02-06 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Jones; +Cc: Andrew Morton, Patrick Mau, linux-kernel

On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 07:37, Dave Jones wrote:

> Unrelated to this problem, but it reminded me...
> I've not heard any compelling arguments saying that these[1] patches
> are wrong.

Ew, yes, real problem.

I will put it in my scheduler tree.

	Robert Love


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