From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: jmjones@jmjones.com
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"Stephen D. Smalley" <sds@epoch.ncsc.mil>,
greg@kroah.com, torvalds@transmeta.com,
linux-security-module@wirex.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BK PATCH] LSM changes for 2.5.59
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:06:26 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030209200626.A7704@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1030207205056.31221A-100000@dixie>; from jmjones@jmjones.com on Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:20:08PM -0500
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:20:08PM -0500, jmjones@jmjones.com wrote:
> I disagree. The code submitted BOTH addresses the current needs and
> "vaguely anticipated future needs" (which I shall define as VAFN).
What is the "current needs" given that selinux is the only module actually
using it and it's neither in a mergeable shape nor is it legally clear
whether it can be merged?
> Open your mind. LSM supports both all current solutions for object-level
> security AND provides a valid basis for moving Linux toward providing, AS
> AN OPTION, true security. Personally, I don't think LSM is the "be all
> and end all" of a security interface, at this point, but I *do* think it's
> the best first-draft of a system that can lead to that end.
you don't get tru security by adding hooks. security needs a careful
design and more strict access control policy can but don't have to be part
of that design.
> What's your REAL problem? Somebody stepping on your territory?
The real problem is adding mess to the kernel.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-02-09 19:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-06 15:02 [BK PATCH] LSM changes for 2.5.59 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-06 15:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-06 17:16 ` David Wagner
2003-02-06 17:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-06 17:51 ` Alan Cox
2003-02-08 2:20 ` jmjones
2003-02-08 4:13 ` Miles Bader
2003-02-09 20:06 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2003-02-10 1:39 ` Crispin Cowan
2003-02-10 3:02 ` LA Walsh
2003-02-10 3:40 ` Crispin Cowan
2003-02-10 7:34 ` LA Walsh
2003-02-10 8:11 ` Chris Wright
2003-02-10 8:21 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-02-10 8:33 ` Crispin Cowan
2003-02-10 8:39 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-02-10 13:31 ` Alan Cox
2003-02-10 17:29 ` Casey Schaufler
2003-02-12 8:12 ` side issues of baloney with that ham...(was LSM changes for 2.5.59) LA Walsh
2003-02-10 20:51 ` [BK PATCH] LSM changes for 2.5.59 LA Walsh
2003-02-10 21:36 ` David Wagner
2003-02-10 22:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-02-11 1:35 ` Dave Jones
2003-02-11 13:59 ` the modules problems Roman Zippel
2003-02-11 19:44 ` [BK PATCH] LSM changes for 2.5.59 Bill Davidsen
2003-02-10 4:06 ` J Sloan
2003-02-10 5:59 ` David Wagner
2003-02-10 7:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-13 4:08 Mika Kukkonen
2003-02-12 16:58 Makan Pourzandi (LMC)
2003-02-12 18:45 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-02-12 19:11 ` magniett
2003-02-12 18:38 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-02-12 22:22 ` Crispin Cowan
2003-02-12 15:37 Pete Loscocco
[not found] <b28k4f$hp4$1@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu>
2003-02-12 8:27 ` LA Walsh
2003-02-10 19:57 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-10 22:38 ` LA Walsh
2003-02-10 16:55 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-11 8:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-13 11:08 ` Chris Wright
2003-02-05 16:59 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-05 16:47 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-05 16:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 22:07 ` Greg KH
2003-02-05 22:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 22:39 ` Russell Coker
2003-02-05 22:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 15:00 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-05 15:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 16:26 ` Mark Hahn
2003-02-05 13:45 Stephen D. Smalley
2003-02-05 14:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 4:15 Greg KH
2003-02-05 8:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
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