From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>
Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@imladris.surriel.com>,
Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@e-mind.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: openbkweb-0.0
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:05:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030213220522.GA11214@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030213211127.GG20159@fs.tum.de>
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 10:11:27PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 08:13:37AM -0800, Larry McVoy wrote:
> >...
> > We'd view reverse engineering the protocol as falling under the "you're
> > working on a competing implementation".
> >...
>
> If a clause in a license forbids a licensee to use or decompile the
> program to gather the information needed for independendly developed
> programs to interoperate with this program current German copyright law
> says that this clause is void in Germany. :-)
Please show me the case law which says we have to give you our technology,
for free, and we do not have the right to say "no way unless you agree to
not reverse engineer".
Lots of law says "if you paid for this product, the seller may not impose
the following restrictions" with reverse engineering being amongst those.
I do not have any data which says that the same law applies in the case of
a no charge copy of the software, do you?
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Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-02-13 21:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-06 2:10 openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-06 2:34 ` openbkweb-0.0 Dave Jones
2003-02-06 3:09 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-06 4:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Ben Collins
2003-02-06 4:37 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-06 6:02 ` openbkweb-0.0 Willy Tarreau
2003-02-06 6:14 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-06 14:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-02-13 2:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-13 11:55 ` openbkweb-0.0 Rik van Riel
2003-02-13 16:13 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 16:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Xavier Bestel
2003-02-13 16:46 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 16:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-13 21:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-13 21:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 Robert Love
2003-02-14 12:59 ` openbkweb-0.0 Xavier Bestel
2003-02-13 22:05 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2003-02-13 22:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14 6:02 ` openbkweb-0.0 Matthew D. Pitts
2003-02-14 6:30 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-14 14:41 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-14 13:54 ` openbkweb-0.0 Matthew D. Pitts
2003-02-14 15:30 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-14 15:45 ` openbkweb-0.0 Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-02-14 16:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-14 16:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Tomas Szepe
2003-02-14 16:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-14 17:09 ` openbkweb-0.0 Tomas Szepe
2003-02-14 17:24 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 11:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 14:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrew Walrond
[not found] ` <1045342539.5130.5.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>
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2003-02-16 20:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 20:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16 21:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 21:48 ` ADSL vs Leased line (was: Re: openbkweb-0.0) John Bradford
2003-02-17 10:13 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-02-17 11:00 ` John Bradford
2003-02-17 11:46 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-02-17 12:00 ` John Bradford
2003-02-15 0:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 0:52 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 0:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 1:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15 1:01 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 2:00 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 2:41 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 3:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 3:30 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 5:00 ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15 5:32 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 7:24 ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15 6:20 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 7:27 ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15 2:13 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15 8:02 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 11:17 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Janík
2003-02-14 20:31 ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-14 22:02 ` openbkweb-0.0 Thomas Molina
2003-02-15 0:39 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 16:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-15 21:31 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19 9:57 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-19 10:43 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19 10:51 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-16 21:03 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-19 9:54 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-14 23:45 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14 23:57 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 0:45 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 1:05 ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 1:13 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 1:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 1:29 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 1:40 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 1:35 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 7:36 ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-15 9:46 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 11:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 11:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 12:07 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jörn Engel
2003-02-15 16:44 ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 12:10 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 16:58 ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-16 20:26 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 21:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Jasen
2003-02-18 17:41 ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 17:44 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-15 18:12 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 20:44 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15 20:54 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16 4:08 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-16 5:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-16 5:35 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-16 22:34 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Machek
2003-02-17 4:31 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-17 14:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 Rik van Riel
2003-02-18 22:34 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19 8:31 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Janík
2003-02-19 15:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 Paul Fulghum
2003-02-19 15:16 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-19 15:28 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Machek
2003-02-19 15:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-15 21:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 21:52 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 22:04 ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 22:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-15 22:24 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrew Morton
2003-02-15 22:44 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 0:15 ` openbkweb-0.0 Matt Reppert
2003-02-16 0:46 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 0:55 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 3:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16 5:22 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-16 11:08 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 11:22 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Woodhouse
2003-02-16 11:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 9:58 ` openbkweb-0.0 Filip Van Raemdonck
2003-02-16 14:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Gaël Le Mignot
2003-02-16 16:27 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jörn Engel
2003-02-16 22:56 ` bk2cvs [was Re: openbkweb-0.0] Pavel Machek
2003-02-18 0:19 ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-18 11:22 ` Pavel Machek
2003-02-18 17:19 ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-14 20:28 ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-14 20:35 ` openbkweb-0.0 nick
2003-02-15 0:17 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
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2003-02-15 19:12 openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Mailhot
2003-02-15 20:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-16 10:36 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Mailhot
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