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From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>, Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: openbkweb-0.0
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:54:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030215205446.GA11988@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1045341898.5130.2.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>

On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 08:44:59PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 18:12, Larry McVoy wrote:
> > All of this sounds great and is exactly what is already the plan.
> > There is one missing item.  A consensus in the community that if we
> > provide BK, the CVS mirror, bkbits hosting, in return the community
> > agrees to leave off using BK to copy BK.
> 
> The community is an amorphous thing so thats tricky to define

You're right, I thought of that after I posted.  What would probably
work best is if someone who was not particularly BK friendly but
is acknowledged as a Linux leader were to step forward and agree to
represent the community interests.  Know anyone like that?  Hint, 
Alan, look in the mirror :)

Then I and this person try and hammer out some sort of compromise.
It's clear from the fuss this causes about every three weeks that people
don't feel safe, on either side.  You're scared that we're going to do
some evil thing and we're scared that you are going to do evil thing.
Maybe it's not possible, but it would be nice if we could, operating in
good faith, work out some sort of agreement that made sense.  Yeah, I
know it isn't binding, that the best you could do on the community side is
have a bunch of people stand up and say "hey, leave BitMover alone, they
are doing a good service" but I'd take that over the current mess any day.
-- 
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Larry McVoy            	 lm at bitmover.com           http://www.bitmover.com/lm 

  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-15 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-06  2:10 openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-06  2:34 ` openbkweb-0.0 Dave Jones
2003-02-06  3:09 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-06  4:23   ` openbkweb-0.0 Ben Collins
2003-02-06  4:37     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-06  6:02       ` openbkweb-0.0 Willy Tarreau
2003-02-06  6:14         ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-06 14:23         ` openbkweb-0.0 Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-02-13  2:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-13 11:55   ` openbkweb-0.0 Rik van Riel
2003-02-13 16:13     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 16:23       ` openbkweb-0.0 Xavier Bestel
2003-02-13 16:46         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 16:56       ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-13 21:11       ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-13 21:18         ` openbkweb-0.0 Robert Love
2003-02-14 12:59           ` openbkweb-0.0 Xavier Bestel
2003-02-13 22:05         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 22:56           ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14  6:02             ` openbkweb-0.0 Matthew D. Pitts
2003-02-14  6:30               ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-14 14:41                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-14 13:54                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Matthew D. Pitts
2003-02-14 15:30                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-14 15:45                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-02-14 16:56                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-14 16:47                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Tomas Szepe
2003-02-14 16:50                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-14 17:09                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Tomas Szepe
2003-02-14 17:24                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 11:42                               ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 14:42                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrew Walrond
     [not found]                                   ` <1045342539.5130.5.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                                     ` <3E4F7E20.30905@walrond.org>
2003-02-16 20:18                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 20:23                                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16 21:18                                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 21:48                                             ` ADSL vs Leased line (was: Re: openbkweb-0.0) John Bradford
2003-02-17 10:13                                               ` Andrew Walrond
2003-02-17 11:00                                                 ` John Bradford
2003-02-17 11:46                                                   ` Andrew Walrond
2003-02-17 12:00                                                     ` John Bradford
2003-02-15  0:11                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15  0:52                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  0:56                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15  1:50                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15  1:01                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15  2:00                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  2:41                               ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15  3:11                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  3:30                                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15  5:00                                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15  5:32                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15  7:24                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15  6:20                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  7:27                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15  2:13                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15  8:02                         ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 11:17                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Janík
2003-02-14 20:31             ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-14 22:02               ` openbkweb-0.0 Thomas Molina
2003-02-15  0:39                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 16:18                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-15 21:31                     ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19  9:57                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-19 10:43                         ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19 10:51                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-16 21:03                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-19  9:54                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-14 23:45               ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14 23:57                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15  0:45                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  1:05                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15  1:13                       ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15  1:18                         ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15  1:29                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15  1:40                           ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15  1:35                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  7:36                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-15  9:46                     ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 11:47                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 11:50                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 12:07                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Jörn Engel
2003-02-15 16:44                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 12:10                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 16:58                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-16 20:26                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 21:11                             ` openbkweb-0.0 John Jasen
2003-02-18 17:41                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 17:44                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-15 18:12                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 20:44                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15 20:54                         ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2003-02-16  4:08                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-16  5:18                             ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-16  5:35                               ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-16 22:34                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Machek
2003-02-17  4:31                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-17 14:50                                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Rik van Riel
2003-02-18 22:34                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19  8:31                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Janík
2003-02-19 15:11                                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Paul Fulghum
2003-02-19 15:16                                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-19 15:28                                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Machek
2003-02-19 15:47                                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-15 21:56                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 21:52                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 22:04                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 22:11                           ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-15 22:24                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrew Morton
2003-02-15 22:44                               ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16  0:15                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Matt Reppert
2003-02-16  0:46                                   ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16  0:55                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16  3:23                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16  5:22                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-16 11:08                                         ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 11:22                                           ` openbkweb-0.0 David Woodhouse
2003-02-16 11:50                                             ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16  9:58                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Filip Van Raemdonck
2003-02-16 14:42                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Gaël Le Mignot
2003-02-16 16:27                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Jörn Engel
2003-02-16 22:56                       ` bk2cvs [was Re: openbkweb-0.0] Pavel Machek
2003-02-18  0:19                         ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-18 11:22                           ` Pavel Machek
2003-02-18 17:19                             ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-14 20:28           ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-14 20:35             ` openbkweb-0.0 nick
2003-02-15  0:17               ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-15 19:12 openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Mailhot
2003-02-15 20:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-16 10:36   ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Mailhot

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