From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Henning Schmiedehausen <hps@intermeta.de>
Cc: Andrew Walrond <andrew@walrond.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: openbkweb-0.0
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:23:05 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030216202305.GA28849@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1045426736.1454.38.camel@henning-pc.hutweide.de>
In the US, at least, all the deals I've been able to find cap the
bandwidth at ~100Kbit/sec average rate.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 09:18:56PM +0100, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> Larry says that he hosts bkbits.net on a T1 which is shared with
> (probably) the IP traffic of bitkeeper.com and his VoIP.
>
> A fully loaded T1 can carry about 1/2 a TB per month traffic. This costs
> you at most (AT MOST!) about 350 Euros per month (e.g. www.odn.de) for
> a 2,3 Mbit SDSL line, which carries even 1,5 times the traffic of a T1).
>
> Rack housing with a moderate traffic volume (e.g. enough for most
> service needs) cost you between 29 Euros for a dedicated server with 60
> Gigs (www.hetzner.de) to 25,90 euros for a shared hosting with a gig of
> disc space and unlimited traffic (www.hosteurope.de, Hostnet product).
>
> All of the cited ISPs claim to have multi-GB uplinks to the various
> german an international peering points. I wouldn't consider that a
> "garden hose".
>
> Larry claimed a $15k bill for his T1. This is about 1200$ per months.
> You can get three flat 2.3 MBit SDSL lines for that. Or a dedicated
> server with about a TB of traffic in a housing center.
>
> Regards
> Henning
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 13:03, Andrew Walrond wrote:
> > Alan Cox wrote:
> > >
> > > Unlimited bandwidth at low bitrate is cheap. If you want 100Mbit then boy
> > > it gets pricy. Its the different between "all you get" and "you get xyz"
> > >
> >
> > Me thinks you miss my point :)
> >
> > In the context of Larry saying "It costs $x,000 dollars for me to
> > provide the bandwidth" and this guy saying "But you can get all you want
> > for 50Euros" leads me to suspect that he believes he is sat at the end
> > of an 8m main bore when infact he has at best a garden hose....
> >
> > Andrew
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-02-16 20:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-06 2:10 openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-06 2:34 ` openbkweb-0.0 Dave Jones
2003-02-06 3:09 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-06 4:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Ben Collins
2003-02-06 4:37 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-06 6:02 ` openbkweb-0.0 Willy Tarreau
2003-02-06 6:14 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-06 14:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-02-13 2:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-13 11:55 ` openbkweb-0.0 Rik van Riel
2003-02-13 16:13 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 16:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Xavier Bestel
2003-02-13 16:46 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 16:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-13 21:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-13 21:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 Robert Love
2003-02-14 12:59 ` openbkweb-0.0 Xavier Bestel
2003-02-13 22:05 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 22:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14 6:02 ` openbkweb-0.0 Matthew D. Pitts
2003-02-14 6:30 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-14 14:41 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-14 13:54 ` openbkweb-0.0 Matthew D. Pitts
2003-02-14 15:30 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-14 15:45 ` openbkweb-0.0 Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-02-14 16:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-14 16:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Tomas Szepe
2003-02-14 16:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-14 17:09 ` openbkweb-0.0 Tomas Szepe
2003-02-14 17:24 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 11:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 14:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrew Walrond
[not found] ` <1045342539.5130.5.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>
[not found] ` <3E4F7E20.30905@walrond.org>
2003-02-16 20:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 20:23 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2003-02-16 21:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 21:48 ` ADSL vs Leased line (was: Re: openbkweb-0.0) John Bradford
2003-02-17 10:13 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-02-17 11:00 ` John Bradford
2003-02-17 11:46 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-02-17 12:00 ` John Bradford
2003-02-15 0:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 0:52 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 0:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 1:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15 1:01 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 2:00 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 2:41 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 3:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 3:30 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 5:00 ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15 5:32 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 7:24 ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15 6:20 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 7:27 ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15 2:13 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15 8:02 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 11:17 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Janík
2003-02-14 20:31 ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-14 22:02 ` openbkweb-0.0 Thomas Molina
2003-02-15 0:39 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 16:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-15 21:31 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19 9:57 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-19 10:43 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19 10:51 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-16 21:03 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-19 9:54 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-14 23:45 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14 23:57 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 0:45 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 1:05 ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 1:13 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 1:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 1:29 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 1:40 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 1:35 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 7:36 ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-15 9:46 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 11:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 11:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 12:07 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jörn Engel
2003-02-15 16:44 ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 12:10 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 16:58 ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-16 20:26 ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 21:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Jasen
2003-02-18 17:41 ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 17:44 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-15 18:12 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 20:44 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15 20:54 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16 4:08 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-16 5:18 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-16 5:35 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-16 22:34 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Machek
2003-02-17 4:31 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-17 14:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 Rik van Riel
2003-02-18 22:34 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19 8:31 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Janík
2003-02-19 15:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 Paul Fulghum
2003-02-19 15:16 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-19 15:28 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Machek
2003-02-19 15:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-15 21:56 ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 21:52 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 22:04 ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 22:11 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-15 22:24 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrew Morton
2003-02-15 22:44 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 0:15 ` openbkweb-0.0 Matt Reppert
2003-02-16 0:46 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 0:55 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 3:23 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16 5:22 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-16 11:08 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 11:22 ` openbkweb-0.0 David Woodhouse
2003-02-16 11:50 ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 9:58 ` openbkweb-0.0 Filip Van Raemdonck
2003-02-16 14:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Gaël Le Mignot
2003-02-16 16:27 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jörn Engel
2003-02-16 22:56 ` bk2cvs [was Re: openbkweb-0.0] Pavel Machek
2003-02-18 0:19 ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-18 11:22 ` Pavel Machek
2003-02-18 17:19 ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-14 20:28 ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-14 20:35 ` openbkweb-0.0 nick
2003-02-15 0:17 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
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2003-02-15 19:12 openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Mailhot
2003-02-15 20:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-16 10:36 ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Mailhot
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