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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: piggin@cyberone.com.au, wli@holomorphy.com,
	david.lang@digitalinsight.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IO scheduler benchmarking
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:25:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030221132549.14fac60d.akpm@digeo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030221114143.GS31480@x30.school.suse.de>

Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> wrote:
>
> I don't
> buy Andrew complaining about the write throttling when he still allows
> several dozen mbytes of ram in flight and invisible to the VM,

The 2.5 VM accounts for these pages (/proc/meminfo:Writeback) and throttling
decisions are made upon the sum of dirty+writeback pages.

The 2.5 VFS limits the amount of dirty+writeback memory, not just the amount
of dirty memory.

Throttling in both write() and the page allocator is fully decoupled from the
queue size.  An 8192-slot (4 gigabyte) queue on a 32M machine has been
tested.

The only tasks which block in get_request_wait() are the ones which we want
to block there: heavy writers.

Page reclaim will never block page allocators in get_request_wait().  That
causes terrible latency if the writer is still active.

Page reclaim will never block a page-allocating process on I/O against a
particular disk block.  Allocators are instead throttled against _any_ write
I/O completion.  (This is broken in several ways, but it works well enough to
leave it alone I think).


  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-21 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-21  5:23 IO scheduler benchmarking Andrew Morton
2003-02-21  5:23 ` iosched: parallel streaming reads Andrew Morton
2003-02-21  5:24 ` iosched: effect of streaming write on interactivity Andrew Morton
2003-02-21  5:25 ` iosched: effect of streaming read " Andrew Morton
2003-02-21  5:25 ` iosched: time to copy many small files Andrew Morton
2003-02-21  5:26 ` iosched: concurrent reads of " Andrew Morton
2003-02-21  5:27 ` iosched: impact of streaming write on streaming read Andrew Morton
2003-02-21  5:27 ` iosched: impact of streaming write on read-many-files Andrew Morton
2003-02-21  5:27 ` iosched: impact of streaming read " Andrew Morton
2003-02-21 10:40   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-21 10:55     ` Nick Piggin
2003-02-21 11:23       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-21 21:11     ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-23 15:16       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-25 12:02       ` Pavel Machek
2003-02-21  5:28 ` iosched: effect of streaming read on streaming write Andrew Morton
2003-02-21  6:51 ` IO scheduler benchmarking David Lang
2003-02-21  8:16   ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-21 10:31     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-21 10:51       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-02-21 11:08         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-21 11:17           ` Nick Piggin
2003-02-21 11:41             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-21 21:25               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2003-02-23 15:09                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-21 11:34           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-02-21 12:38             ` Andrea Arcangeli
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-25  5:35 rwhron
2003-02-25  6:38 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-25 12:59 rwhron
2003-02-25 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-25 21:57 rwhron

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