From: jw schultz <jw@pegasys.ws>
To: Linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: About /etc/mtab and /proc/mounts
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 01:21:21 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030227092121.GG15254@pegasys.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <buo65r6ru6h.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp>
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 05:42:30PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Kasper Dupont <kasperd@daimi.au.dk> writes:
> > > Yes. On some systems, /var and /tmp are the _only_ read-write filesystems.
> >
> > OK, but then on such a system with my approach it would be possible to
> > make /mtab.d a symlink pointing to somewhere under /var.
>
> ... you could do the same with /etc/mtab.
>
> In fact since /etc is almost guaranteed to be on the same filesystem as
> /, it seems like "/mtab.d" offers zero advantages over just /etc/mtab --
> the case where /etc/mtab is the most annoying is when /etc is R/O, but
> this almost always means that / will be R/O, making /mtab.d useless too.
If you netboot /etc as its own filesystem make sense. Why
duplicate the rest of root just for /etc. /etc, /var and
/tmp are the only filesystems that have much reason to be
unique to a system; all others are easily sharable and most
others read-only.
>
> > But AFAIK fsck uses mtab.
>
> It uses /etc/fstab.
>
> > If mtab does not exist mount will attempt to create a new one with
> > only the root listed.
>
> Unless you use the `-n' flag, which an init-script should do if it
> knows there's something wierd required to get /var mounted or something.
<voice of annoyance>
/etc/mtab is a hack. I suspect it was done so that fsck, df
and umount wouldn't have to read /dev/kmem. We now have
much better ways to get data out of the kernel.
The idea of storing the list of mounted filesystems on a
mounted filesystem is a bad idea from the get-go. The only
advantage it ever really had was the possibility to manually
play mountpoint monte with mv. Duplicating the in-kernel
data externally begs for inconsistencies that only get worse
with pivot root.
Let the data reside in the kernel and have a procfs or sysfs
entity for it. A symlink from /etc/mtab can keep the old
tools happy.
--
________________________________________________________________
J.W. Schultz Pegasystems Technologies
email address: jw@pegasys.ws
Remember Cernan and Schmitt
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-02-27 9:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-19 11:21 About /etc/mtab and /proc/mounts DervishD
2003-02-26 9:18 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-02-26 10:26 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-02-26 11:00 ` Olaf Dietsche
2003-02-26 11:14 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-02-26 11:44 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-02-26 12:16 ` Olaf Dietsche
2003-02-26 12:34 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-02-26 13:39 ` Olaf Dietsche
2003-02-26 13:54 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-02-26 14:23 ` Olaf Dietsche
2003-02-27 4:14 ` Miles Bader
2003-02-27 6:40 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-02-27 7:03 ` Joseph Wenninger
2003-02-27 8:28 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-03-05 0:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-02-27 7:06 ` Miles Bader
2003-02-27 8:25 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-02-27 8:42 ` Miles Bader
2003-02-27 9:21 ` jw schultz [this message]
2003-02-27 9:49 ` Miles Bader
2003-02-27 23:33 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-02-27 12:48 ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-02-27 23:28 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-02-28 6:15 ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-03-02 13:04 ` DervishD
2003-03-02 14:16 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-03-03 1:04 ` jw schultz
2003-03-03 12:22 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-03-04 2:02 ` jw schultz
2003-03-05 12:57 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-03-06 1:18 ` jw schultz
2003-03-06 23:30 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-03-04 11:16 ` DervishD
2003-03-04 11:08 ` DervishD
2003-02-27 9:46 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-02-27 9:58 ` Miles Bader
2003-02-27 12:26 ` Gabriel Paubert
2003-02-27 7:07 ` Joseph Wenninger
2003-02-27 7:08 ` Dominik Kubla
2003-02-27 8:12 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-02-27 9:11 ` Dominik Kubla
2003-02-27 16:00 ` Horst von Brand
2003-02-27 16:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-27 16:40 ` Dominik Kubla
2003-02-27 19:47 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-02-27 22:13 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-02-27 22:31 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-02-27 23:54 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-02-28 1:37 ` Miles Bader
2003-03-02 12:53 ` DervishD
2003-03-02 14:00 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-03-04 11:02 ` DervishD
2003-03-04 12:09 ` Kasper Dupont
2003-03-04 14:53 ` DervishD
2003-03-02 12:51 ` DervishD
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