From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:21:03 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:21:02 -0500 Received: from havoc.daloft.com ([64.213.145.173]:6378 "EHLO havoc.gtf.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:20:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:31:15 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik To: Pavel Roskin Cc: David Hinds , David Hinds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fallback to PCI IRQs for TI bridges Message-ID: <20030303203115.GD6615@gtf.org> References: <20030301093814.A6700@sonic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 12:26:54PM -0500, Pavel Roskin wrote: > Hi, David! > > > > yenta_socket in 2.5.63 knows different models of the bridges and sets IRQ > > > routing to PCI for certain models. I don't really like this approach. > > > > I have not looked at the most recent 2.5.* kernels but if that is true > > then you're right, it is ill conceived. > > I'm not aware of the "political" situation around PCMCIA drivers, but I > think it's sad that the kernel drivers are pushed (e.g. by Red Hat) in the > hope that they will get more visibility and will be improved, but the > people who have the best expertize still use pcmcia-cs drivers and work on > improving them. Red Hat "pushes" exactly what the Linux community supports: This is also called "tracking upstream" and/or "working with the Linux community, and following the Linux community's decisions." This is _not_ a political situation at all. We simply ship what the community supports. Red Hat would not be good "open source citizens" if they did otherwise. Taking off my Red hat, and donning my "personal opinion" hat, I think the kernel cardbus support has been very effectively. It allows drivers such as tulip and 8139too and epic100 and 3c59x to Just Work(tm), without any modification besides PCI id table updates. Nothing external required. That's a huge boon to programmers and maintainers. Jeff