From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: BitBucket: GPL-ed *notrademarkhere* clone
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:53:56 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030303215356.GE2835@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E623B9A.8050405@pobox.com>
On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 12:12:58PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> My counter-question is, why not improve an _existing_ open source SCM to
> read and write BitKeeper files? Why do we need yet another brand new
> project?
Normally, I'd agree with you Jeff. However, none of the current
open source SCM systems are architected in a way that can operate like
BK.
I've been using subversion for a while now. It pretty much
fixes all the problems that CVS had, AS LONG AS you accept the CVS style
of version control. That style doesn't work for non-central work like
the kernel.
The one thing BK does that makes it worthwhile is the three-way
merge. This (and the resulting DAG) make handling code from Alan, from
Linus, from Andrew, and from everyone else possible. With CVS,
subversion, or any other SCM I've worked with, you have to hand merge
anything past the first patch. Ugh.
This requires architecture, and (AFAIK) BitBucket is the first
try at it. Compatibility with the proprietary tool that does it already
is a good thing.
Joel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-03-03 21:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-03-02 0:11 BitBucket: GPL-ed KitBeeper clone Adam J. Richter
2003-03-02 0:20 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-02 0:20 ` David Lang
2003-03-02 0:49 ` Arador
2003-03-02 1:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-02 2:15 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-02 1:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-02 1:40 ` BitBucket: GPL-ed *notrademarkhere* clone Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-02 1:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-02 2:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-02 17:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-02 18:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-02 20:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-02 21:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-03 18:37 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-03 18:46 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-03 22:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-03 23:14 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-03 23:56 ` David Lang
2003-03-04 0:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-04 0:05 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-04 0:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-04 0:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-04 2:20 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-04 5:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-04 5:56 ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-03-04 14:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-02 3:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-02 17:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-02 18:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-02 20:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-03 0:47 ` nickn
2003-03-03 0:55 ` David Lang
2003-03-03 2:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-03 2:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-04 1:07 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-04 1:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-03 21:53 ` Joel Becker [this message]
2003-03-04 23:37 ` Olaf Hering
2003-03-06 16:47 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-06 16:41 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-07 11:24 ` Tupshin Harper
2003-03-07 11:28 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-07 21:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-08 23:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-03 0:13 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-03 0:10 ` BitBucket: GPL-ed KitBeeper clone Pavel Machek
2003-03-04 16:16 ` David Woodhouse
2003-03-04 16:27 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-02 1:26 ` Olivier Galibert
2003-03-06 16:18 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-07 12:12 ` Olivier Galibert
2003-03-07 12:32 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-07 16:54 ` Olivier Galibert
2003-03-07 17:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-07 19:08 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-07 19:25 ` Eli Carter
2003-03-07 20:29 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-07 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-08 22:52 ` Zack Brown
2003-03-09 0:05 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-09 1:21 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-03-09 2:45 ` Zack Brown
2003-03-09 3:19 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-09 3:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-09 4:32 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-09 13:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-03-09 15:35 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-09 16:55 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-09 17:20 ` Zack Brown
2003-03-09 17:48 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-09 19:58 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-09 21:32 ` Zack Brown
2003-03-09 21:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-03-09 23:28 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-13 20:00 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-09 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-09 17:58 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-09 18:20 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-09 23:19 ` fs
2003-03-13 0:41 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-13 21:21 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-09 20:01 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-13 0:13 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-09 14:49 ` Olivier Galibert
2003-03-13 0:05 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-10 0:02 ` Thoughts about ideal kernel SCM Petr Baudis
2003-03-10 0:32 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 19:29 ` Petr Baudis
2003-03-13 10:36 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-14 22:56 ` Petr Baudis
2003-03-17 20:59 ` Petr Baudis
2003-03-10 3:41 ` BitBucket: GPL-ed KitBeeper clone Horst von Brand
2003-03-10 13:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-03-10 23:03 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-11 18:40 ` Zack Brown
2003-03-11 18:46 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-11 19:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-11 19:33 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-11 20:08 ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-11 20:29 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-12 6:14 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-03-13 2:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-13 3:11 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-03-14 12:29 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-15 20:53 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-15 21:26 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-15 21:32 ` Petr Baudis
2003-03-15 23:39 ` Petr Baudis
2003-03-16 0:39 ` Horst von Brand
2003-04-07 21:22 ` Petr Baudis
2003-03-12 3:47 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-12 4:03 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 4:49 ` [PATCH] ~/kernel/sys.c (2.5.64) (trivial) Jay Patrick Howard
2003-03-12 5:22 ` BitBucket: GPL-ed KitBeeper clone Zack Brown
2003-03-12 5:44 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-12 13:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-13 1:03 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-13 16:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-15 15:02 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-15 21:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-12 6:19 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-03-13 1:31 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-12 15:32 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-12 16:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-12 20:37 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-12 20:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-13 2:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-15 1:03 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-12 13:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-13 0:52 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-13 17:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-13 21:48 ` Zack Brown
2003-03-13 22:04 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-15 16:21 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-15 21:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-15 21:53 ` Robert Anderson
2003-03-15 21:50 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-03-15 22:16 ` Robert Anderson
2003-03-15 22:18 ` Robert Anderson
2003-03-16 0:18 ` Petr Baudis
2003-03-16 0:53 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-03-16 0:55 ` [arch-users] " Stig Brautaset
2003-03-16 1:44 ` Tom Lord
2003-03-16 2:06 ` Adam Spiers
2003-03-16 3:28 ` David Lang
2003-03-16 5:43 ` Robert Anderson
2003-03-16 11:57 ` (Re: BitBucket: GPL-ed KitBeeper clone) Moving to arch-users Petr Baudis
2003-03-14 11:34 ` BitBucket: GPL-ed KitBeeper clone Pavel Machek
2003-03-12 23:38 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-09 2:06 ` Horst von Brand
[not found] ` <b4b98v_14m_1@penguin.transmeta.com>
2003-03-12 23:23 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-13 21:15 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-08 0:18 ` Olaf Dietsche
2003-03-02 1:37 ` Filip Van Raemdonck
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