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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>
Cc: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>,
	scott thomason <scott-kernel@thomasons.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: bio too big device
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 17:06:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030312160611.GL834@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030312160218.GB4868@win.tue.nl>

On Wed, Mar 12 2003, Andries Brouwer wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 04:51:05PM +0100, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 12 2003, Andries Brouwer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:14:14AM +0100, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > 
> > > > So I still think it's much better stick with the safe choice. Why do you
> > > > think it's only one drive that has this bug? It basically boils down to
> > > > whether That Other OS uses 256 sector commands or not. If it doesn't, I
> > > > wouldn't trust the drives one bit.
> > > 
> > > I am not quite sure I understand your reasoning.
> > > We have seen *zero* drives that do not understand 256 sector commands.
> > > Maybe such drives exist, but so far there is zero evidence.
> > 
> > Have you read the thread? You are obviously mistaken.
> 
> Usually I am not, but I am happy to be corrected.
> Please point out the facts.
> 
> What I have seen is Paul Gortmaker, who reported on an old disk
> that showed errors with 256 sector transfers. In an early post
> he thought that that just was because the drive did not understand
> 256-sector transfers, in a later post he reported that in fact
> 256-sector transfers worked but that it was possible to
> provoke a problem by having heavy load for an hour with
> 256-sector transfers.
> 
> I have an old drive that works fine but after three crashes
> at 4 in the morning I decided that the load of updating
> the locate database was more than it could handle.
> Heavy load is something that kills many a machine.

Either the drive has the bug or not. I seriously doubt that 256 vs 248
sectors would put any extra strain on the drive.

If there's no real precedent wrt 256 sector bug in _any_ drive, then I'm
fine with that change. Remember that we _did_ have it that way for a
while, it was only changed back because of apparent problems. If those
problems turn out to be non-existant, then the error was changing it
away from 256 in the first place.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-12 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-12  2:55 bio too big device scott thomason
2003-03-12  3:17 ` scott thomason
2003-03-12  8:18   ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12  3:37 ` Neil Brown
2003-03-12  3:49   ` scott thomason
2003-03-12  8:30   ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12  5:01 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-03-12  8:47   ` Andries Brouwer
2003-03-12  8:59     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-03-12  8:51   ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12  9:01     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-03-12  9:09       ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 10:07         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-03-12 10:14           ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 15:44             ` Andries Brouwer
2003-03-12 15:51               ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 16:02                 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-03-12 16:06                   ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2003-03-12 16:14                 ` John Bradford
2003-03-12 17:59               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-12 19:05                 ` John Bradford
2003-03-12 19:14                   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-12 22:20                     ` John Bradford
2003-03-12 21:28                 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-03-14 11:19                   ` Paul Gortmaker
2003-03-12 21:45                 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-12 14:54           ` scott thomason
2003-03-12 14:58             ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 17:09             ` Alan Cox
2003-03-12 16:14         ` Alan Cox
2003-03-12 15:11           ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 17:12             ` Alan Cox
2003-03-12 16:06               ` Jens Axboe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-03-12 18:19 Manfred Spraul
2003-03-12 21:40 ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <20030416172122.M65357@gw>
     [not found] ` <20030416181944.M32238@gw>
2003-04-16 18:32   ` Anders Larsson
2003-04-17 13:36     ` Alan Cox
2003-04-16 18:43 Mudama, Eric

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