From: Ben Collins <bcollins@debian.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, Larry McVoy <lm@work.bitmover.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] BK->CVS (real time mirror)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:18:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030312161838.GF563@phunnypharm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030312032614.G12806@schatzie.adilger.int>
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 03:26:14AM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Mar 12, 2003 09:55 +0100, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 11 2003, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > You've made quite a marketing move. It's obvious to me, maybe not to
> > > others. By providing this CVS gateway, you make it almost pointless to
> > > work on an alternative client. Also by providing it, you make it easier
> > > to get away with locking the revision history into a proprietary format.
> >
> > This is a really good point, deserves high lighting imho...
> >
> > The BK candy is getting increasingly bitter to swallow here, I may just
> > have to drop it soon. A shame.
>
> Sadly, some people see the dark side of everything. I don't see how making
> a CVS repository available with comments and an as-good-as-you-can-do-with-CVS
> equivalent of a BK changeset equals "locking the revision history into a
> proprietary format". Yes, Larry said that this would allow him to change the
> BK file format to break compatibility with CSSC, but it is no more "locked
> away" now than before for those people who refuse to use BK.
>
> Ironically, SCCS was a former "evil proprietary format" that was reverse
> engineered to get CSSC, AFAIK. People are still free to update CSSC to
> track BK if they so choose.
Atleast SCCS is mostly ascii. Larry is talking about binary. Who knows,
maybe even encrypted and using some unknown compression method (I'm sure
if it's encrypted, it will be called "compression").
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-03-12 16:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-03-12 3:43 [ANNOUNCE] BK->CVS (real time mirror) Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 4:16 ` Ben Collins
2003-03-12 8:55 ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 10:26 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-03-12 10:31 ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 10:56 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-03-12 11:15 ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 11:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-03-12 16:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-12 16:30 ` Dana Lacoste
2003-03-12 16:47 ` John Bradford
2003-03-12 17:08 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-12 21:50 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-13 23:30 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-12 17:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-12 17:57 ` John Bradford
2003-03-12 18:03 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 20:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-14 19:15 ` BK->CVS (2.4 + 2.5 updates) Larry McVoy
2003-03-13 7:59 ` [ANNOUNCE] BK->CVS (real time mirror) Theodore Ts'o
2003-03-13 9:58 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-12 16:18 ` Ben Collins [this message]
2003-03-12 16:47 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-03-12 17:34 ` Ryan Anderson
2003-03-12 18:38 ` Arador
2003-03-12 18:47 ` Ben Collins
2003-03-12 19:12 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-03-13 0:29 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-13 0:56 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-16 3:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-12 4:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-12 4:56 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-16 3:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-12 19:34 ` Brandon Low
2003-03-16 13:45 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-17 14:18 ` Wayne Scott
2003-03-17 14:45 ` Pavel Machek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-03-12 17:42 Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 18:01 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-12 18:34 ` Ben Collins
2003-03-12 19:03 ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-03-12 19:38 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-12 19:32 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-03-12 19:53 ` Ben Collins
2003-03-12 20:09 ` Ben Collins
2003-03-12 20:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-12 23:58 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-12 20:37 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-03-13 2:57 ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-03-16 3:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-16 17:45 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-16 18:54 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-03-16 19:30 ` Shawn
2003-03-16 19:33 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-16 21:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-17 1:18 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-17 1:35 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-17 1:56 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-17 9:01 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-03-17 17:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-17 18:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-17 19:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-03-17 19:40 ` David Lang
2003-03-17 20:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-03-17 20:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-17 20:12 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-17 21:56 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-17 22:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-21 14:16 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-21 17:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-21 19:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-22 0:15 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-22 0:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-17 17:41 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-17 18:04 ` Petr Baudis
2003-03-12 19:21 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-03-12 19:51 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 20:08 ` Ben Collins
2003-03-12 20:14 ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-03-12 20:18 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 20:46 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-03-12 20:58 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 21:08 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-03-13 0:41 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 21:18 ` Eli Carter
2003-03-13 20:45 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-13 1:58 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-13 23:40 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 21:05 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-03-12 21:18 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 21:31 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-03-12 21:33 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 21:45 ` Kai Germaschewski
2003-03-12 22:01 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 22:21 ` David Lang
2003-03-12 22:30 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 23:18 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-03-15 16:52 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-13 21:00 ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-13 9:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-13 23:26 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-14 8:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-13 15:38 David Mansfield
2003-03-13 15:42 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-17 23:08 David Mansfield
2003-03-17 23:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-17 23:33 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-17 23:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-18 1:48 ` David Mansfield
2003-03-18 2:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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