From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:32:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:32:13 -0500 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:2213 "EHLO mail.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:32:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:42:44 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] BK->CVS (real time mirror) Message-ID: <20030312174244.GC13792@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org [BK is locking up our data] [BitMover has to give us our data in an open format] [The BK pill is oh-so-bitter] [My tummy hurts and it's Larry's fault] Boo hoo, cry me a river. Those of you complaining ought to at least look before you complain. You just assumed that we were screwing you and you couldn't be bothered to verify it before you complained. We didn't screw you at all, all the data is there. And BK itself has always had the ability to export any data in any format, if you read the man pages you might notice that, but that would be too much work, it's easier to complain. If you had actually gone and looked at the CVS repository you would have seen that there is nothing of value missing, in almost 100% of the files, the full revision history is preserved: CVS: 110,076 deltas over all files BK: 121,891 deltas over all files You guys don't have that much parallelism in your files and the exporter is capturing all that it can which is virtually everything. It's worth noting that many deltas in BK are just event recorders, they are just empty merge delta noise and in fact many people have asked us to get rid of them. Once again, it's easier to complain than think. I'm detecting a trend. The graph traversal managed to capture an amazing amount of information, it's bloody awesome, which you might have noticed if you had looked. But, nooooo, let's just piss and moan. What a bunch of friggin' whiners. The next time you open your mouth, the words that come out of it should be "thank you". Nothing else, just that. If you can't say something nice, now is a good time to say nothing at all because we are sick and tired of dealing with people who complain far more than they code. I'm serious, we've done way more than anyone could reasonably expect and you react with no basis in fact, assume bad things that aren't true, don't bother to look to see if there is a real problem, and don't bother to say thanks. Aren't you the slightest bit ashamed of your behaviour? -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm