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From: Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@debian.org>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] BK->CVS (real time mirror)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:05:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030312210513.GA6948@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030312195120.GB7275@work.bitmover.com>

On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:51:20AM -0800, Larry McVoy wrote:
> Well, I agree that they should be able to get at the information in a 
> neutral way.  I guess it was unrealistic, but I was expecting that people
> would go download the CVS tree and poke around and see if it is what they
> wanted.  We could have had a nice technical discussion about what was 
> missing, if anything.  If the discussion had happened, they would have 
> found out that even for the missing deltas we captured the information.
> 
> Here's an example.  Suppose the graph is like
> 
> 	1.1 (torvalds) -> 1.2 (alan) -> 1.3 (sct) -> 1.4 (torvalds) 
> 	             \                             /
> 		      \-> 1.1.1.1 (davej) --------/
> 
> and we picked the straight 1.1 to 1.4 path.  When we created the CVS 1.4
> delta, we knew that it was a merge delta and we needed to capture the 
> data off on the branch.  We already capture the contents, the missing part
> is what davej may have typed in as comments.  We capture that as well, it
> looks like this:
> 
>     revision 1.342
>     date: 2003/03/07 15:39:16;  author: torvalds;  state: Exp;  lines: +7 -1
>     [PATCH] kbuild: Smart notation for non-verbose output
> 
>     2003/03/05 19:50:27-06:00 kai
>     kbuild: Make build stop on vmlinux link error
> 
>     (Logical change 1.8166)
> 
> That particular example is from the top level Makefile, Linus merged
> in Kai's work and we added the "kbuild: Make build stop on vmlinux link
> error" comments from the merged in delta.  If there were more than one
> delta, they get merged as well, so the rlog output is completely accurate.

Larry, this brings up something I was meaning to ask you before this
thread exploded.  What happens to those "logical change" numbers over
time?

My understanding (since you mentioned ~ 3 minute latency on BK pushes,
not five hour latency) was that future changes would go into CVS
incrementally.  As far as I understand the "revision numbers" that BK
uses, they're subject to change.  Based on what trees Linus merges
from, a revision number in his repository may not always have the same
number.  So the comments will become out-of-date and inaccurate.

Or am I wrong about the potential for change within a single
repository?


-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-03-12 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-12 17:42 [ANNOUNCE] BK->CVS (real time mirror) Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 18:01 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-12 18:34 ` Ben Collins
2003-03-12 19:03   ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-03-12 19:38     ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-12 19:32   ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-03-12 19:53     ` Ben Collins
2003-03-12 20:09       ` Ben Collins
2003-03-12 20:20       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-12 23:58         ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-12 20:37       ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-03-13  2:57   ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-03-16  3:48   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-16 17:45     ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-16 18:54       ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-03-16 19:30         ` Shawn
2003-03-16 19:33         ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-16 21:52           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-17  1:18             ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-17  1:35               ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-17  1:56                 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-17  9:01                 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-03-17 17:46                 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-17 18:04                   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-17 19:32                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-03-17 19:40                       ` David Lang
2003-03-17 20:00                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-03-17 20:43                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-17 20:12                     ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-17 21:56             ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-17 22:08               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-21 14:16                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-21 17:42                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-21 19:40                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-22  0:15                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-22  0:51                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-17 17:41           ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-17 18:04             ` Petr Baudis
2003-03-12 19:21 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-03-12 19:51   ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 20:08     ` Ben Collins
2003-03-12 20:14     ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-03-12 20:18       ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 20:46       ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-03-12 20:58         ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 21:08           ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-03-13  0:41             ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 21:18           ` Eli Carter
2003-03-13 20:45           ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-13  1:58       ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-13 23:40       ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 21:05     ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2003-03-12 21:18       ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 21:31         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-03-12 21:33           ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 21:45         ` Kai Germaschewski
2003-03-12 22:01           ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 22:21             ` David Lang
2003-03-12 22:30               ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 23:18                 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-03-15 16:52                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-13 21:00             ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-13  9:43     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-03-13 23:26       ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-14  8:53         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-03-17 23:08 David Mansfield
2003-03-17 23:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-17 23:33   ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-17 23:57     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-18  1:48     ` David Mansfield
2003-03-18  2:43       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-13 15:38 David Mansfield
2003-03-13 15:42 ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12  3:43 Larry McVoy
2003-03-12  4:16 ` Ben Collins
2003-03-12  8:55   ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 10:26     ` Andreas Dilger
2003-03-12 10:31       ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 10:56         ` Andreas Dilger
2003-03-12 11:15           ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 11:20       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-03-12 16:13       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-12 16:30         ` Dana Lacoste
2003-03-12 16:47           ` John Bradford
2003-03-12 17:08           ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-12 21:50             ` Alan Cox
2003-03-13 23:30               ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-12 17:29           ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-12 17:57             ` John Bradford
2003-03-12 18:03               ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-12 20:49                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-13  7:59                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-03-13  9:58                   ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-12 16:18       ` Ben Collins
2003-03-12 16:47         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-03-12 17:34           ` Ryan Anderson
2003-03-12 18:38   ` Arador
2003-03-12 18:47     ` Ben Collins
2003-03-12 19:12       ` Andreas Dilger
2003-03-13  0:29       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-13  0:56         ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-16  3:44       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-12  4:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-12  4:56   ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-16  3:10   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-12 19:34 ` Brandon Low
2003-03-16 13:45 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-17 14:18   ` Wayne Scott
2003-03-17 14:45     ` Pavel Machek

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