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From: "Murray J. Root" <murrayr@brain.org>
To: kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Never ever use word BitKeeper if Larry does not like you
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 06:19:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030314111940.GA1757@Master.Wizards> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030314105132.GB14270@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>

On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 11:51:32AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Never ever use word KitBeeper, Larry thinks he owns the world.  
> 
> The page originally said "Goal of this project is to create version
> managment system compatible with <prohibited word>".
> 
> 								Pavel
> 
> PS: I know forwarding personal message to the mailing list is not
> polite, but this is more of legal threat than personal message...
> 
> PPS: About Toyota: I may not be able to call my company Toyota (if you
> have registered trademark in czech republic, which I doubt), but I'm
> sure able to say that my car contains same engine as Toyota
> 1234cdt. And as you named directory in the repository BitKeeper,
> there's no chance not to mention it. 
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com> -----
> 
> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:21:54 -0800
> From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
> To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
> Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
> Subject: Re: BitBucket: GPL-ed BitKeeper clone
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i
> 
> > Sorry, but I'm doing this on my own, this has nothing to do with SuSE.
> 
> That's fine, I've taken it up with the sourceforge people.  What you 
> are doing is a violation of their terms of use and they'll get you
> to fix it, I don't care who fixes it, I want absolutely no reference
> to anything which can connect that work with BitKeeper.  That's well
> with in our legal rights.
> 
> As for it being on your own time, let's see if SuSE wants the negative
> publicity.  I'm quite willing to make a stink, you've annoyed me and
> I've put up with as much as I'm going to.
> 
> > I believe the wording above is okay; if you miss "BitKeeper is
> > trademark of BitMover" notice, I guess you can have that too. If you
> > want your lawyer to call me, my cellphone is +XXXXXXXXXXXX; if you
> > want to suggest alternate wording, just do that. But I believe saying
> > "compatible with (something)" is okay, and I can allways just misspell
> > it.
> 
> No, you can't.  Check into the case law.  If there is any way to connect
> it to our product, it is within our rights to protect our brand.  You 
> can't call your new car company Toyotaa either, Toyota can sue and will
> if they think it infringes on their brand.
> 
> You are quite welcome to write your own SCM.  You may not take advantage
> of our work, check into the law.  
> -- 
> ---
> Larry McVoy              lm at bitmover.com          http://www.bitmover.com/lm
> 
> ----- End forwarded message -----

Ah, thanks, Pavel. I like to start the day with a bit of humor.

-- 
Murray J. Root


  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-14 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-14 10:51 Never ever use word BitKeeper if Larry does not like you Pavel Machek
2003-03-14 11:19 ` Murray J. Root [this message]
2003-03-14 11:50 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-03-14 13:35   ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-03-14 14:43   ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-14 16:10     ` Alan Cox
2003-03-14 15:14       ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-14 16:11         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2003-03-14 16:21           ` John Jasen
2003-03-14 16:28             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2003-03-14 16:37               ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-14 16:56                 ` Linux-kernel-revision-control list (was: Re: Never ever use word BitKeeper if Larry does not like you) Christian Daudt
2003-03-15  2:29                   ` Joshua Kwan
2003-03-16  7:56                   ` Josef Roehrl
2003-03-14 17:09                 ` Never ever use word BitKeeper if Larry does not like you Davide Libenzi
2003-03-14 18:29                   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-14 18:48                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-03-14 17:10                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2003-03-14 21:12                 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-03-15  0:59                 ` Stephen Satchell
2003-03-14 18:57           ` Wichert Akkerman
2003-03-14 20:49           ` Roger Luethi
2003-03-14 21:55             ` Eric Sandall
2003-03-15  0:56           ` Stephen Satchell
2003-03-15  3:36             ` Werner Almesberger
2003-03-15 12:20             ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-16  0:57               ` Alan Cox
2003-03-16  5:01                 ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-03-14 16:29         ` Alan Cox
2003-03-14 15:29           ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-14 16:43             ` Alan Cox
2003-03-14 16:43             ` Tom Sightler
2003-03-14 16:58               ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-14 17:56                 ` Tom Sightler
2003-03-14 18:34                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-03-14 17:44         ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-14 20:37         ` Teodor Iacob
2003-03-14 18:29     ` Brian McGroarty
2003-03-14 20:33   ` Teodor Iacob
2003-03-14 21:32     ` Brian McGroarty
2003-03-14 12:06 ` Matthias Andree
2003-03-14 15:38   ` Alan Cox
2003-03-14 16:00   ` Mark Mielke
2003-03-14 16:03     ` Larry McVoy
2003-03-14 16:30       ` Mark Mielke
2003-03-14 23:13   ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-14 13:42 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-14 14:33 ` Never ever send Pavel private mail unless you want him to publish it Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-03-14 14:50   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-03-14 16:13   ` Mark Mielke
2003-03-17  0:16     ` Stuart MacDonald
2003-03-17  0:44       ` Tim Smith
2003-03-17  8:43         ` Helge Hafting
2003-03-17  0:57       ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-03-17  2:16         ` Stuart MacDonald
2003-03-17  2:16           ` David Lang
2003-03-17  4:37             ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-03-17  6:21               ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-03-17 14:56                 ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
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     [not found]       ` <20030314184009$69b1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-03-14 21:48         ` Never ever use word BitKeeper if Larry does not like you Florian Weimer
2003-03-15  0:49           ` John Alvord
2003-03-15  7:51             ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-15 14:32             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen

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