From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 03:28:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 03:28:56 -0500 Received: from vladimir.pegasys.ws ([64.220.160.58]:36880 "HELO vladimir.pegasys.ws") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 03:28:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 00:39:40 -0800 From: jw schultz To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Ext2-devel] Re: [RFC] Improved inode number allocation for HTree Message-ID: <20030315083940.GE18287@pegasys.ws> Mail-Followup-To: jw schultz , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200303102104.h2AL43iZ000875@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk> <20030310212953.57F2310435B@mx12.arcor-online.net> <1047332834.11339.3.camel@serpentine.internal.keyresearch.com> <20030310220254.GA21234@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> <1047679031.2566.616.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1047679031.2566.616.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 09:57:12PM +0000, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 22:02, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 01:47:14PM -0800, Bryan O'Sullivan wrote: > > > Why start? Who actually uses atime for anything at all, other than the > > > tiny number of shops that care about moving untouched files to tertiary > > > storage? > > > > > > Surely if you want to heap someone else's plate with work, you should > > > offer a reason why :-) > > > > "You have new mail" vs "You have mail". > > "nodiratime" can still help there. As may noatime. noatime only prevents the automatic update of atime on read. It doesn't (at least in my experience) prevent utime(2) from updating the atime field. Using noatime works quite well with at least with mutt which explicitly uses utime(2) to update atime. I cannot be certain but mutt may actually work better with noatime because then other tools (*biff &co) accesses won't break the mailer's notion of new mail (mtime > atime). -- ________________________________________________________________ J.W. Schultz Pegasystems Technologies email address: jw@pegasys.ws Remember Cernan and Schmitt