From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Martin Mares <mj@ucw.cz>
Cc: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
szepe@pinerecords.com, arjanv@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:08:20 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030323200820.A20767@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030323195606.GA15904@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>; from mj@ucw.cz on Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 08:56:06PM +0100
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 08:56:06PM +0100, Martin Mares wrote:
> > Yes, I suspect he does as do most people here.
> >
> > If you do not use a vendor kernel then you assume the responsibility of
> > doing this stuff yourself. If you do not want to worry about these
> > things, use a vendor kernel.
>
> But if you assume this, what are the official releases for anyway?
It is the way Linux is heading - becoming less free. Lock-in to
distribution vendors. And soon you'll need to pay distributions
to (timely) get the fixes.
To give an instance, because I don't work for a distribution, I don't
have access to the security lists. Yet, I'm the guy who produces the
ARM patches which the ARM community at large use.
This situation caused HP to shut down their public ARM boxen while I
worked on integrating the security fix into the ARM tree. Unfortunately,
this could only happen _after_ the problem was publically announced,
which means some of HPs systems were vulnerable to attack for a few
days.
If you think Linux today is about something "free"...
--
Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk) The developer of ARM Linux
http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-03-23 19:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-03-17 16:04 Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25 Alan Cox
2003-03-17 17:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-03-17 18:20 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-17 18:23 ` James Bourne
2003-03-17 18:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-21 21:17 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-23 10:00 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-03-23 13:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 15:58 ` Petr Baudis
2003-03-23 19:25 ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 19:30 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 19:34 ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 19:38 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 19:44 ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 19:47 ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 19:55 ` Henrik Persson
2003-03-23 20:13 ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 20:46 ` Henrik Persson
2003-03-23 19:56 ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 20:08 ` Russell King [this message]
2003-03-23 22:26 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 20:10 ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 20:30 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 20:36 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-23 21:20 ` Martin Hermanowski
2003-03-23 21:35 ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 21:53 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 22:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 22:29 ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 22:57 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 0:15 ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 22:43 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-03-23 22:54 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 23:19 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 23:34 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 3:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-24 3:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-24 6:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-03-24 12:17 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 23:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 23:45 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 0:07 ` J.A. Magallon
2003-03-24 6:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-03-24 0:09 ` Christian Axelsson
2003-03-24 20:05 ` aradorlinux
2003-03-23 20:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-03-23 20:51 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 0:51 ` Juan Quintela
2003-03-24 1:29 ` Brian Tinsley
2003-03-23 20:54 ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 22:13 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 21:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 21:59 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 22:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 22:46 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-25 11:35 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-03-25 11:36 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-03-23 20:09 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-23 20:21 ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 20:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 22:22 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 21:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 21:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-03-24 15:33 ` jlnance
2003-03-23 19:53 ` Jörn Engel
2003-03-24 0:08 ` Sven Schuster
2003-03-24 0:20 ` James Bourne
2003-03-24 0:37 ` Sven Schuster
2003-03-24 0:50 ` James Bourne
2003-03-24 0:39 ` Jörn Engel
2003-03-24 2:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-24 2:57 ` James Bourne
2003-03-24 2:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-24 14:42 ` Dave Jones
2003-03-27 7:47 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-26 20:30 ` Dave Jones
2003-03-26 20:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-26 21:02 ` Jörn Engel
2003-03-27 5:20 ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 19:41 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-17 19:34 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-17 18:27 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-17 19:23 ` Neale Banks
2003-03-18 18:44 ` James Bourne
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2003-03-17 18:39 ` Ben Pfaff
2003-03-18 1:46 ` Alan Cox
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2003-03-19 11:28 mlafon
2003-03-19 20:09 Matthew Grant
2003-03-19 21:34 ` Matthew Grant
[not found] <20030323194012$6886@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030323194014$66c3@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030323195010$5026@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030323195012$6f30@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030323200029$737b@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030323202005$2a74@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-03-23 20:33 ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 22:24 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 21:46 ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 23:05 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20030323200023$1a65@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030323202014$096a@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-03-23 20:35 ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 20:59 ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 22:38 Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 22:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 23:06 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 10:30 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-03-24 10:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-03-24 15:40 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 16:55 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-03-27 14:47 Dr. Greg Wettstein
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