From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 64-bit kdev_t - just for playing
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 18:02:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030409010250.GZ31739@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0304090225440.12110-100000@serv>
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 02:40:24AM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
> > a) There are, genuinely, systems with more than 65,536 devices or
> > anonymous mounts. That rules out the current dev_t just by itself.
>
> Absolutely nobody denies that we need a larger dev_t. It's really a poor
> argumentation that you have to come up with this.
Roman,
There are a couple things being discussed here. One is the size
of dev_t. The other is dynamic numbers. It would seem that most folks
agree with a larger dev_t and a more dynamic numbering system. Let's
assume we want both for now (folks who don't, please keep out for a
second). There are three courses of action that seem to be advocated.
1) Ship 2.6 with 16bit dev_t, work on a larger dev_t and perfect dynamic
devices in 2.7.
2) Ship 2.6 with a (32|64)bit dev_t, work on a perfect dynamic scheme in
2.7.
3) Hold 2.6 until it can ship with (32|64)bit dev_t and perfect dynamic
devices.
Many folks, Peter and myself included, are claiming that choice
(1) is absolutely untenable. We need more device space today, not in 3
years when 2.7 becomes 2.8.
If I understand you correctly (and here is why I mailed), you
feel that choice (2) is the worst of the choices. You feel that we
should either choose course (1) or course (3). I'm not sure which of
those you prefer.
Joel
--
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"Every so often, push your luck."
Joel Becker
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Oracle Corporation
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-04-09 0:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-03-31 23:41 64-bit kdev_t - just for playing Badari Pulavarty
2003-03-31 23:54 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-03-31 23:55 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-02 12:18 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-02 17:31 ` Badari Pulavarty
2003-04-02 22:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-03 10:09 ` David Lang
2003-04-03 11:14 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-03 12:13 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-03 13:37 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-04-03 14:01 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-07 15:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-07 20:10 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-07 21:57 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-07 22:43 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-08 15:22 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-08 22:53 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-08 23:11 ` David Lang
2003-04-08 23:47 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-08 23:58 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-08 23:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-08 23:06 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-09 0:40 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-09 1:02 ` Joel Becker [this message]
2003-04-09 1:25 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-09 16:42 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-09 0:21 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-11 9:58 ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-08 15:29 ` Roman Zippel
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-09 18:40 James Bottomley
2003-04-09 20:54 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-10 2:19 ` James Bottomley
2003-04-10 12:47 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-10 15:30 ` James Bottomley
2003-04-10 23:53 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-11 0:01 ` David Lang
2003-04-11 0:17 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-11 0:47 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 1:11 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-09 18:36 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-09 21:11 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-01 18:32 Andries.Brouwer
2003-03-28 15:33 Andries.Brouwer
2003-03-28 15:49 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-28 11:46 Andries.Brouwer
2003-03-28 11:57 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-28 11:10 Andries.Brouwer
2003-03-28 11:36 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-30 20:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-30 20:13 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-27 22:37 Andries.Brouwer
2003-03-27 22:55 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-27 20:27 Andries.Brouwer
2003-03-27 22:12 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-27 22:55 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-27 23:19 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-27 23:48 ` Greg KH
2003-03-28 9:47 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-28 18:05 ` Joel Becker
2003-03-28 18:48 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-31 8:31 ` bert hubert
2003-03-31 8:52 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-31 17:24 ` Joel Becker
2003-03-31 21:32 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-31 22:18 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-31 23:42 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-01 14:42 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-01 16:35 ` Greg KH
2003-04-02 13:02 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-01 14:42 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-01 16:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-04-01 21:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-02 7:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-04-02 7:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-31 23:45 ` Joel Becker
2003-03-31 23:07 ` Joel Becker
2003-03-31 23:35 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-27 1:09 Andries.Brouwer
2003-03-27 19:23 ` Roman Zippel
2003-03-30 20:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
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