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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
Cc: "Kevin P. Fleming" <kpfleming@cox.net>,
	linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, message-bus-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] udev 0.1 release
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:58:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030411195843.GO1821@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030411192827.GC31739@ca-server1.us.oracle.com>

On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 12:28:27PM -0700, Joel Becker wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 11:31:28AM -0700, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
> > - if any partitions are found, they are registered with the kernel using 
> > device-mapper ioctls
> > - because these new "mapped sections" of the drive are _also_ usable block 
> > devices in their own right, they generate hotplug events
> 
> 	In reality, we need /dev/disk0 for disks, and /dev/part0 for
> partitions, and /dev/lv0 for logical volumes from the LVM.

Well, that's maybe what _you_ want to call your disks and partitions,
but not what I want to call them :)

> There's going to be a war over this naming, and that's why this is
> hard.

No, there isn't.  That's what I am trying to completely avoid with udev.
It will allow you to plug in whatever device naming scheme that you
want.  This will keep all of the disc vs. disk flamewars from every
happening in the kernel community (well, I can hope...)

I'll be providing a small default name scheme that happens to match the
current Documentation/devices.txt names, and possibly a devfs naming
scheme for those people who like that scheme.  After that, it will be
quite easy for you to create a Oracle naming scheme where you give
different prefixes to your partitions vs. disks.

This scheme allows you to use databases, flat files, or even send a
message across the network to a admin console to get the name of a new
device.  Much more flexible than setting a kernel naming scheme, and
moves this whole argument and policy out of the kernel.

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-04-11 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-11  3:24 [ANNOUNCE] udev 0.1 release Greg KH
2003-04-11  6:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 17:20   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:46     ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 18:03       ` Michael Buesch
2003-04-11 18:12         ` Nicholas Berry
2003-04-11 18:41           ` Eric Weigle
2003-04-11 21:54           ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 18:23       ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-11 18:31         ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 19:07           ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:29             ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-12  8:07               ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 23:27                 ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-11 23:39             ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-04-12  0:08               ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  0:21                 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-04-12  8:40                   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12  8:52                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 19:28           ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 19:38             ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 23:26               ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 19:58             ` Greg KH [this message]
2003-04-11 23:25               ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 23:37                 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  0:19                   ` Joel Becker
2003-04-12  1:06                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-12  4:43                       ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 12:56                       ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-12  4:20                     ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:29           ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 20:43             ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:30               ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:38                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-11 22:43                   ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:58                     ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:32                       ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:45                         ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:56                 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:31                   ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12  6:45                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-12 14:45                 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 22:09             ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 22:19               ` Tim Hockin
2003-04-11 22:47                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 23:03                   ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  8:04                   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 23:01               ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:23                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 23:35                   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:37                 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12  7:49                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-19  4:39               ` David Brownell
2003-04-19  4:16           ` David Brownell
2003-04-11 18:30       ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:00         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:09       ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 19:54         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 19:59           ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:16             ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 20:16               ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:23                 ` Chris Hanson
2003-04-11 20:32                   ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:47                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 20:39               ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 22:03                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 22:00             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 21:28         ` Martin Mares
2003-04-11 18:12     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 18:52       ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:31         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 20:10           ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:56             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 21:03             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 22:27             ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:53               ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:10 ` Jeremy Jackson
2003-04-11 17:18   ` Justin Cormack
2003-04-11 17:21   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 18:02 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-11 18:12   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:09     ` Nick Craig-Wood
     [not found] <200304112018.11931.freesoftwaredeveloper@web.de>
2003-04-11 18:50 ` Steve Lee
2003-04-11 19:09   ` Michael Buesch
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-11 20:42 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 20:48 ` David Lang
2003-04-11 20:59   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:32     ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:41       ` David Lang
2003-04-11 22:51       ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:27         ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:32           ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:39             ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12  0:04     ` Joel Becker
     [not found] <20030411173018$2695@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030411175011$3d7e@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030411182022$7f7a@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <20030411184016$1180@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <20030411204006$0496@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <20030411205018$7440@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-04-11 21:09           ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-11 21:57             ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:12               ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-12  7:39               ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 22:35             ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:05               ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:30                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-11 22:36 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-12  7:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 22:42 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:59 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-12  4:22 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-12 12:18 Arnd Bergmann

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