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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: "Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky" <inaky.perez-gonzalez@intel.com>
Cc: "'oliver@neukum.name'" <oliver@neukum.name>,
	"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net'" 
	<linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	"'message-bus-list@redhat.com'" <message-bus-list@redhat.com>,
	"'Daniel Stekloff'" <dsteklof@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] udev 0.1 release
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:53:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030411225356.GC3786@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A46BBDB345A7D5118EC90002A5072C780BEBAAAD@orsmsx116.jf.intel.com>

On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 03:27:19PM -0700, Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky wrote:
> 
> 
> > From: Greg KH [mailto:greg@kroah.com]
> >
> > But I can do a lot to prevent losses.  A lot of people around here point
> > to the old way PTX used to regenerate the device naming database on the
> > fly.  We could do that by periodically scanning sysfs to make sure we
> > are keeping /dev in sync with what the system has physically present.
> > That's one way, I'm sure there are others.
> 
> This might be a tad over-simplification, but sysfs knows by heart when
> anything is modified, because it goes through it's interface. If we
> only care about, for example, devices, we could hook up into
> device_create() [was this the name?]; line up in a queue all the
> devices for which an plug/unplug event hasn't been delivered to user
> space and create symlinks in /sysfs/hotplug-events/. 
> 
> Each entry in there is a symlink to the new device directory, named with an 
> increasing integer for easy serialization. When the event is fully
> processed, remove the entry from user space.

Um, how do you show a symlink to a device that is no long there when the
device is removed?  :)

It would also require that users can delete files from sysfs, which
isn't currently possible.  Special casing one directory for this would
be a pain.

In the end, it's a nice idea, but the current one is much simpler, and
works today :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-11 22:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-11  3:24 [ANNOUNCE] udev 0.1 release Greg KH
2003-04-11  6:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 17:20   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:46     ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 18:03       ` Michael Buesch
2003-04-11 18:12         ` Nicholas Berry
2003-04-11 18:41           ` Eric Weigle
2003-04-11 21:54           ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 18:23       ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-11 18:31         ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 19:07           ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:29             ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-12  8:07               ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 23:27                 ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-11 23:39             ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-04-12  0:08               ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  0:21                 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-04-12  8:40                   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12  8:52                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 19:28           ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 19:38             ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 23:26               ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 19:58             ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:25               ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 23:37                 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  0:19                   ` Joel Becker
2003-04-12  1:06                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-12  4:43                       ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 12:56                       ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-12  4:20                     ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:29           ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 20:43             ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:30               ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:38                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-11 22:43                   ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:58                     ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:32                       ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:45                         ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:56                 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:31                   ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12  6:45                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-12 14:45                 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 22:09             ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 22:19               ` Tim Hockin
2003-04-11 22:47                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 23:03                   ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  8:04                   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 23:01               ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:23                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 23:35                   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:37                 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12  7:49                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-19  4:39               ` David Brownell
2003-04-19  4:16           ` David Brownell
2003-04-11 18:30       ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:00         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:09       ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 19:54         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 19:59           ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:16             ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 20:16               ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:23                 ` Chris Hanson
2003-04-11 20:32                   ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:47                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 20:39               ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 22:03                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 22:00             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 21:28         ` Martin Mares
2003-04-11 18:12     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 18:52       ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:31         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 20:10           ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:56             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 21:03             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 22:27             ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:53               ` Greg KH [this message]
2003-04-11 17:10 ` Jeremy Jackson
2003-04-11 17:18   ` Justin Cormack
2003-04-11 17:21   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 18:02 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-11 18:12   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:09     ` Nick Craig-Wood
     [not found] <200304112018.11931.freesoftwaredeveloper@web.de>
2003-04-11 18:50 ` Steve Lee
2003-04-11 19:09   ` Michael Buesch
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-11 20:42 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 20:48 ` David Lang
2003-04-11 20:59   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:32     ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:41       ` David Lang
2003-04-11 22:51       ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:27         ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:32           ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:39             ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12  0:04     ` Joel Becker
     [not found] <20030411173018$2695@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030411175011$3d7e@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030411182022$7f7a@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <20030411184016$1180@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <20030411204006$0496@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <20030411205018$7440@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-04-11 21:09           ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-11 21:57             ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:12               ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-12  7:39               ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 22:35             ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:05               ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:30                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-11 22:36 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-12  7:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 22:42 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:59 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-12  4:22 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-12 12:18 Arnd Bergmann

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