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From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: "Kevin P. Fleming" <kpfleming@cox.net>
Cc: linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, message-bus-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] udev 0.1 release
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:26:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030411232659.GD4917@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E9719C9.6090300@cox.net>

On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 12:38:49PM -0700, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
> No doubt. And then you get into the situation where the devices themselves 
> have names and/or UUIDs, and you want that to be incorporated into the 
> device name. As it stands today, the only way to achieve that is pass that 
> information to device-mapper so it can create devices with those names.

	Oh, I don't want that ever in the name.  I don't want to have to
know much about my disks, except that once the association is there,
it's there until I delete it.

> Personally, I wouldn't be upset if _all_ "physical volumes" (meaning an 
> accessible block devices or portion thereof) appeared under /dev/volume/... 
> Even logical volumes could be done that way, since they have names as well. 
> I don't really see the need to have "whole disks", "partitions" and other 
> types of volumes in separate directories under /dev, but then I may be way 
> off base with the rest of the world wants to do :-)

	There are multiple reasons.  I need to know what's a disk so I
can configure it.  I need to know what's a partition or a logical volume
so I can put filesystems on it.
	It's always fun these days when folks try to use 'whole disks'
and 'partitions' as equivalent things.  They are indeed from a block
device standpoint, but they aren't from an administration standpoint.

Joel

-- 

Life's Little Instruction Book #99

	"Think big thoughts, but relish small pleasures."

Joel Becker
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Oracle Corporation
E-mail: joel.becker@oracle.com
Phone: (650) 506-8127

  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-11 23:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-11  3:24 [ANNOUNCE] udev 0.1 release Greg KH
2003-04-11  6:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 17:20   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:46     ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 18:03       ` Michael Buesch
2003-04-11 18:12         ` Nicholas Berry
2003-04-11 18:41           ` Eric Weigle
2003-04-11 21:54           ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 18:23       ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-11 18:31         ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 19:07           ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:29             ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-12  8:07               ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 23:27                 ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-11 23:39             ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-04-12  0:08               ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  0:21                 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-04-12  8:40                   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12  8:52                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 19:28           ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 19:38             ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 23:26               ` Joel Becker [this message]
2003-04-11 19:58             ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:25               ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 23:37                 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  0:19                   ` Joel Becker
2003-04-12  1:06                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-12  4:43                       ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 12:56                       ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-12  4:20                     ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:29           ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 20:43             ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:30               ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:38                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-11 22:43                   ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:58                     ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:32                       ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:45                         ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:56                 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:31                   ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12  6:45                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-12 14:45                 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 22:09             ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 22:19               ` Tim Hockin
2003-04-11 22:47                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 23:03                   ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  8:04                   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 23:01               ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:23                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 23:35                   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:37                 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12  7:49                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-19  4:39               ` David Brownell
2003-04-19  4:16           ` David Brownell
2003-04-11 18:30       ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:00         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:09       ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 19:54         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 19:59           ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:16             ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 20:16               ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:23                 ` Chris Hanson
2003-04-11 20:32                   ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:47                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 20:39               ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 22:03                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 22:00             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 21:28         ` Martin Mares
2003-04-11 18:12     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 18:52       ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:31         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 20:10           ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:56             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 21:03             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 22:27             ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:53               ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:10 ` Jeremy Jackson
2003-04-11 17:18   ` Justin Cormack
2003-04-11 17:21   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 18:02 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-11 18:12   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:09     ` Nick Craig-Wood
     [not found] <200304112018.11931.freesoftwaredeveloper@web.de>
2003-04-11 18:50 ` Steve Lee
2003-04-11 19:09   ` Michael Buesch
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-11 20:42 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 20:48 ` David Lang
2003-04-11 20:59   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:32     ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:41       ` David Lang
2003-04-11 22:51       ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:27         ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:32           ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:39             ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12  0:04     ` Joel Becker
     [not found] <20030411173018$2695@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030411175011$3d7e@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030411182022$7f7a@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <20030411184016$1180@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <20030411204006$0496@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <20030411205018$7440@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-04-11 21:09           ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-11 21:57             ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:12               ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-12  7:39               ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 22:35             ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:05               ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:30                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-11 22:36 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-12  7:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 22:42 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:59 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-12  4:22 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-12 12:18 Arnd Bergmann

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