From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262024AbTD0Xlf (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Apr 2003 19:41:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262047AbTD0Xlf (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Apr 2003 19:41:35 -0400 Received: from smtp.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.12]:55185 "EHLO smtp.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262024AbTD0Xle (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Apr 2003 19:41:34 -0400 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 16:53:45 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Matthew Kirkwood Cc: Larry McVoy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!] Message-ID: <20030427235345.GN23068@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Matthew Kirkwood , Larry McVoy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20030427185037.GA23581@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0.5, required 4.5, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 11:51:58PM +0100, Matthew Kirkwood wrote: > On Sun, 27 Apr 2003, Larry McVoy wrote: > > Please excuse the aggressive trimming, but I don't think I'm > affecting the intent of your works. I agree, what you did is fine, great in fact. Thanks. > > 1) Corporations are threatened when people copy their content and/or > > products. > > I think that the word "copy" may be a significant cause > of artificial disagreement here. I, for one, find it just > as misleading as "free" (is it as-in-beer or as-in-speech?). > > Larry -- would you be willing, in future postings of this > nature, to distinguish "duplicate" and "reimplement"? A very good point, you're right. And it's worse because I use "copying" to mean two different things depending on context. To clarify: in general, when I'm talking about copying, what I mean depends on whether I'm talking about content or software programs. For content, copying means the act of generating a new copy of the content (copying mp3 files via Napster like services, for example). For programs, which is usually what I'm talking about, I mean the act of sitting down and trying to make a new program which does the same thing as the old program. I think some people may think that I mean redistribution when I say copying and I almost never am talking about that. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm