From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: must-fix list for 2.6.0
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:52:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030430045259.GD8978@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030429214537.7c6a6aaf.akpm@digeo.com>
William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com> wrote:
>> I didn't notice anything specific here about sys_remap_file_pages() vs.
>> truncate() (sans objrmap); did a fix fly by that I didn't notice,
>> or was it less of an issue than I thought it was?
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 09:45:37PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> That's just a bug. We can either go through and unmap all the pages via
> their rmap chains, or mark the vma as nonlinear and just anonymise the pages
> and to heck with the SIGBUS. I'm not particularly fussed either way
> really...
Okay, I'll just fill in if no one else appears to do the busywork.
William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com> wrote:
>> Also, the OOM killer fails to check lowmem; basically it just needs
>> - if (nr_swap_pages > 0)
>> + if (nr_swap_pages > 0 && nr_free_buffer_pages() > 0)
>> With that in addition to the OOM killer locking patch I posted and
>> another to completely eliminate mm-less processes from consideration
>> 64GB ia32 (with, of course, my oversized out-of-tree patch) recovers
>> from OOM instead of deadlocking after a mass-killing with swap online.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 09:45:37PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Wanna send patch?
Absolutely; I'll arrange a more organized presentation around Thursday
(yes, I'm among the last-minute OLS people -- it couldn't be helped).
William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com> wrote:
>> I'd be interested in more detailed descriptions of the user-level no
>> overcommit, dcacheicache, and truncated ext3 page issues after Thursday.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 09:45:37PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> The arithmetic in vm_enough_memory() is woefully inaccurate. If you have no
> swap and then build up a lot of icache/dcache, vm_enough_memory()
> underestimates the amount of reclaimable memory by a lot and big mallocs
> fail. If the i/dcache has internal fragmentation it gets even worse.
> I had a brief poke at that a while ago and decided it was basically hopeless.
> I suspect that assuming "all slab pages are reclaimable" would be the best
> fix here.
It sounds like some thought may be necessary if the above approach is
to be improved upon.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 09:45:37PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> The ext3 truncate pages are those pages which are on the LRU and have
> buffers, but that's _all_ they have. They are instantly reclaimable and are
> basically free memory. Only nobody knows that yet, so vm_enough_memory()
> gets it wrong. The fix would be to nail these pages more aggressively in
> journal_unmap_buffer(), or to account for them and include that accounting in
> vm_emough_memory(). I'd prefer to just free the dang pages in
> journal_unmap_buffer().
Noted.
William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com> wrote:
>> The latter sounds easy to address. It actually sounds like a 2.4.x
>> compatibility fix.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 09:45:37PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> davem thinks we shouldn't need it, and I've seen no bug reports that indicate
> that we _do_ need it, but Andi says we do.
> Certainly something needs to be done in that area - a ppc64 box with 16G of
> memory (all ZONE_DMA) cruises along with just 1M of memory free.
Okay, I'll classify that as a back-burner issue.
Thanks.
-- wli
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-04-30 4:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-04-29 22:57 must-fix list for 2.6.0 Andrew Morton
2003-04-29 23:22 ` John Bradford
2003-04-29 23:37 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-30 3:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-30 4:45 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-30 4:52 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2003-05-01 4:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-30 8:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-04-30 10:16 ` Maciej Soltysiak
2003-04-30 19:11 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-30 23:11 ` Rick Lindsley
2003-04-30 23:21 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-30 23:47 ` viro
2003-04-30 23:59 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-01 6:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-01 5:49 ` Shawn
2003-05-01 10:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-01 9:47 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-01 15:44 ` Robert Love
2003-05-01 0:09 ` Robert Love
2003-05-01 0:51 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-05-01 5:40 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-01 11:57 ` Bill Huey
2003-04-30 23:53 ` Robert Love
2003-05-01 8:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-01 8:42 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-01 8:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-04-30 23:41 ` Robert Love
2003-05-01 16:50 ` Hubertus Franke
2003-05-01 3:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-01 6:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-01 14:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-01 18:42 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-01 18:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-02 1:57 ` Andreas Boman
[not found] <20030429155731.07811707.akpm@digeo.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-04-30 1:36 ` Andi Kleen
2003-04-30 18:09 ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-30 18:15 ` Andi Kleen
2003-04-30 19:11 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] <20030429231009$1e6b@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-04-30 4:55 ` Florian Weimer
2003-04-30 10:18 ` Maciej Soltysiak
2003-05-01 11:24 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-01 11:27 ` Florian Weimer
2003-05-01 12:03 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-01 12:05 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-02 16:28 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-02 21:14 ` David S. Miller
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