From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262343AbTD3Pni (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:43:38 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262347AbTD3Pni (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:43:38 -0400 Received: from damocles.com ([216.12.219.203]:1942 "EHLO uph.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262343AbTD3Pnh (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:43:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:55:54 -0500 From: Jeff Randall To: Larry McVoy , "Downing, Thomas" , Larry McVoy , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!] Message-ID: <20030430105554.A15778@uph.com> References: <170EBA504C3AD511A3FE00508BB89A9202032941@exnanycmbx4.ipc.com> <20030430152041.GA22038@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030430152041.GA22038@work.bitmover.com>; from lm@bitmover.com on Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 08:20:41AM -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 08:20:41AM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > My point wasn't about theft, it was about reimplementation. > I stand behind that point, what I've seen for more than a decade is > reimplementation after reimplementation. I'm not saying there is no > value to that or that it is illegal or that there are no improvements > (compare Unix diff to GNU diff if you want to see some imrovements). > There is tons of value in having free versions of useful tools. > There is also tons of value in the creation of new work. > > What I haven't seen is a lot of revolutionary work. All of that seems > to come from commercial companies and at a pretty slow pace. There are > a lot of false starts, commercial failures, whatever. But a few slam > dunks as well. Mosaic was pretty revolutionary for it's time.. as was Sendmail.. source was available for both from the start. -- randall@uph.com "It's a big world and you can hit it with any airplane." -- Flying, August 2000, Page 90.