From: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
To: ranty@debian.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Simon Kelley <simon@thekelleys.org.uk>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@ipc.com>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
jt@hpl.hp.com, Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: request_firmware() hotplug interface, third round.
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 10:07:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200305161007.31335.oliver@neukum.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030515200324.GB12949@ranty.ddts.net>
> How it works:
> - Driver calls request_firmware()
> - 'hotplug firmware' gets called with ACCTION=add
> - /sysfs/class/firmware/dev_name/{data,loading} show up.
>
> - echo 1 > /sysfs/class/firmware/dev_name/loading
> - cat whatever_fw > /sysfs/class/firmware/dev_name/data
> - echo 0 > /sysfs/class/firmware/dev_name/loading
>
> - The call to request_firmware() returns with the firmware in a
> memory buffer and the driver can finish loading.
> - Driver loads the firmware.
> - Driver calls release_firmware().
So, if I understand you correctly, RAM is only saved if a device
is hotpluggable and needs firmware only upon intial connection.
Which, if you do suspend to disk correctly, is no device.
And do I understand you correctly, you propose that request_firmware()
wait for the hotplug script to write the firmware to sysfs?
That means that request_firmware() is unusuable from the usual
probe() methods. You cannot kill a part of the kernel if a script
fails to perform correctly for some reason. Even worse, you
cannot detect the script terminating abnormally in that design.
You'd have to introduce some arbitrary timeout.
It seems to me that you introduce three new problems to get rid of
one old problem.
Regards
Oliver
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-16 7:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-15 20:03 request_firmware() hotplug interface, third round Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-16 8:07 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2003-05-16 9:56 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-16 15:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-05-16 18:31 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-16 22:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-05-17 0:59 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-17 4:00 ` Robert White
2003-05-17 13:23 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-17 14:57 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-16 18:49 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-05-16 22:24 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-05-16 23:21 ` Greg KH
2003-05-16 16:09 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-16 22:13 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-05-17 4:50 ` David Gibson
2003-05-17 7:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-05-17 8:21 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.55.0305151623520.2885@marabou.research.att.com>
2003-05-16 9:27 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-16 22:39 ` Greg KH
2003-05-16 13:13 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-05-16 17:07 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-16 22:36 ` Greg KH
2003-05-16 23:37 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-16 23:59 ` Greg KH
2003-05-17 4:47 ` David Gibson
2003-05-17 8:54 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-16 23:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-05-17 0:03 ` Greg KH
2003-05-17 2:42 ` Robert White
2003-05-17 4:44 ` David Gibson
2003-05-17 8:46 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-17 9:07 ` David Gibson
2003-05-17 9:50 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-17 10:30 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-20 5:21 ` David Gibson
2003-05-20 8:07 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-21 4:21 ` Greg KH
2003-05-21 7:06 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-17 10:51 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-05-17 13:21 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-05-17 15:15 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
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