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From: bert hubert <ahu@ds9a.nl>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] futex API cleanups, futex-api-cleanup-2.5.69-A2
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 16:47:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030519144716.GA20193@outpost.ds9a.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305191351570.9877-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 02:33:01PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>  - start the phasing out of FUTEX_FD. This i believe is quite unclean and
>    unrobust, because it attaches a new concept (futexes) to a very old
>    (polling) concept. We want futex support in kernel-AIO, not in the
>    polling APIs. AFAIK only NGPT uses FUTEX_FD.

I for one would want the ability to select, poll and epoll on a futex while
also being notified of availability of data on sockets. I see no alternative
even, except for messing with signals or running select with a small
timeout, introducing needless latency.

It may be weird, but it does work in practice. 'Unrobust' would be a problem
but I fail to see how this is unclean.

Thanks.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-19 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-19  9:31 [patch] futex requeueing feature, futex-requeue-2.5.69-D3 Ingo Molnar
2003-05-19 10:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 10:16   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-19 11:49     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 12:33       ` [patch] futex API cleanups, futex-api-cleanup-2.5.69-A2 Ingo Molnar
2003-05-19 12:51         ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-19 14:47         ` bert hubert [this message]
2003-05-19 16:02           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-19 15:18         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-19 16:06           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-19 23:33             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-20  0:39               ` Rusty Russell
2003-05-20  1:14                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-20  1:44                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-20 16:54                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-20 17:59                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-21 23:56                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-20  1:50                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-20  0:15             ` Rusty Russell
2003-05-20  0:08   ` [patch] futex requeueing feature, futex-requeue-2.5.69-D3 Rusty Russell
2003-05-20  0:31     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-19 10:23 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-19 10:30   ` [patch] futex requeueing feature, futex-requeue-2.5.69-D4 Ingo Molnar
2003-05-20  0:04 ` [patch] futex requeueing feature, futex-requeue-2.5.69-D3 Rusty Russell
2003-05-20  0:40   ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-05-20  1:46     ` Rusty Russell
2003-05-20  2:11       ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-05-20  6:27       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-20  6:56         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-20  8:57           ` Rusty Russell
2003-05-20  9:03             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-20  9:51               ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-20 12:56                 ` [patch] futex patches, futex-2.5.69-A2 Ingo Molnar
2003-05-20 14:08                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-20 16:02                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-20 19:55                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-21  5:06                         ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-21  6:31                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-20 15:46                 ` [patch] futex requeueing feature, futex-requeue-2.5.69-D3 Linus Torvalds
2003-05-20  9:12           ` Ingo Oeser
2003-05-20 15:41           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-20  8:55         ` Rusty Russell
2003-05-20  6:19   ` Ingo Molnar

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