From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] futex requeueing feature, futex-requeue-2.5.69-D3
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 18:55:29 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030520085911.8AC522C12C@lists.samba.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 20 May 2003 08:27:03 +0200." <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305200821010.2445-100000@localhost.localdomain>
In message <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305200821010.2445-100000@localhost.localdomain> you write:
> yes, but the damage has been done already, and now we've got to start the
> slow wait for the old syscall to flush out of our tree. It will a few
> years to get rid of the compat code, but we better start now. hch is
> perfectly right that the old futex multiplexer interface is quite ugly,
> the requeue op only made this even more prominent.
It's a judgement call: how simple it is to change vs. the amount of
damage done by not changing it.
I don't think it's worth changing, but I don't think we're going to
convince each other.
> > Comment says: /* Must be "naturally" aligned */. This used to be true
> > in a much earlier version of the code, now AFAICT the requirement test
> > should be:
> >
> > /* Handling futexes on multiple pages? -ETOOHARD */
> > if (pos_in_page + sizeof(u32) > PAGE_SIZE)
> > return -EINVAL;
>
> yes - but i'd rather enforce this for every futex, than to hit it in every
> 1000th app that manages to misalign a futex _and_ lay it across two pages.
Good point. I'd prefer to fix the comment though, since it's not
true. How about changing it to something like:
/* We can't handle futexes across multiple pages: best to reject
any crazy alignment to save the users from themselves. */
> Also, it's only x86 that guarantees atomic instructions on misaligned
> futexes (even then it comes with a cycle penalty), are you sure this also
> works on other architectures? So i'd rather be a bit more strict with this
> requirement.
Sure. My point was that this comment is actually from a v. early futex
version where the kernel actually did the atomic ops itself.
Hope that clarifies!
Rusty.
--
Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-20 8:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-19 9:31 [patch] futex requeueing feature, futex-requeue-2.5.69-D3 Ingo Molnar
2003-05-19 10:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 10:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-19 11:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 12:33 ` [patch] futex API cleanups, futex-api-cleanup-2.5.69-A2 Ingo Molnar
2003-05-19 12:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-19 14:47 ` bert hubert
2003-05-19 16:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-19 15:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-19 16:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-19 23:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-20 0:39 ` Rusty Russell
2003-05-20 1:14 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-20 1:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-20 16:54 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-20 17:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-21 23:56 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-20 1:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-20 0:15 ` Rusty Russell
2003-05-20 0:08 ` [patch] futex requeueing feature, futex-requeue-2.5.69-D3 Rusty Russell
2003-05-20 0:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-19 10:23 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-19 10:30 ` [patch] futex requeueing feature, futex-requeue-2.5.69-D4 Ingo Molnar
2003-05-20 0:04 ` [patch] futex requeueing feature, futex-requeue-2.5.69-D3 Rusty Russell
2003-05-20 0:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-05-20 1:46 ` Rusty Russell
2003-05-20 2:11 ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-05-20 6:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-20 6:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-20 8:57 ` Rusty Russell
2003-05-20 9:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-20 9:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-20 12:56 ` [patch] futex patches, futex-2.5.69-A2 Ingo Molnar
2003-05-20 14:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-20 16:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-20 19:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-21 5:06 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-21 6:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-20 15:46 ` [patch] futex requeueing feature, futex-requeue-2.5.69-D3 Linus Torvalds
2003-05-20 9:12 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-05-20 15:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-20 8:55 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2003-05-20 6:19 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] <3ECAC2AE.8090401@redhat.com>
2003-05-21 2:34 ` Rusty Russell
2003-05-21 9:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-21 10:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-22 0:30 ` Rusty Russell
2003-05-22 9:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-22 10:35 ` Rusty Russell
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-22 11:23 Martin Wirth
2003-05-22 11:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-05-22 12:04 ` William Lee Irwin III
[not found] <3ECCB319.4060706@dlr.de.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-05-22 11:38 ` Andi Kleen
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