From: James Cleverdon <jamesclv@us.ibm.com>
To: "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: <haveblue@us.ibm.com>, <wli@holomorphy.com>, <arjanv@redhat.com>,
<pbadari@us.ibm.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<gh@us.ibm.com>, <johnstul@us.ibm.com>, <akpm@digeo.com>,
<mannthey@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: userspace irq balancer
Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 06:54:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200305210654.22987.jamesclv@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3014AAAC8E0930438FD38EBF6DCEB56402043344@fmsmsx407.fm.intel.com>
On Tuesday 20 May 2003 08:41 am, Nakajima, Jun wrote:
> The in-kernel load balance does not move IRQs that are bound to particular
> CPUs. If the user-level can do it better, just set affinity, and I believe
> that is the current implementation.
>
> The in-kernel one is simply trying to emulate functionality in the chipset,
> thus it's not so intelligent, of course. The major reason we need to do it
> in software is that x86 Linux does not update TPR(s).
>
> Thanks,
> Jun
It may be time to think about using the TPRs again, and see if HW interrupt
routing helps Arjan's test case. Of course for any system using clustered
APIC mode, we will still need to decide which APIC cluster gets which IRQ....
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin J. Bligh [mailto:mbligh@aracnet.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 7:01 AM
> > To: David S. Miller
> > Cc: haveblue@us.ibm.com; wli@holomorphy.com; arjanv@redhat.com;
> > pbadari@us.ibm.com; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; gh@us.ibm.com;
> > johnstul@us.ibm.com; jamesclv@us.ibm.com; akpm@digeo.com;
> > mannthey@us.ibm.com
> > Subject: Re: userspace irq balancer
> >
> > > How does the in-kernel IRQ load balancing measure "load" and
> > > "busyness"? Herein lies the most absolutely fundamental problem with
> > > this code, it fails to recognize that we end up with most of our
> > > networking "load" from softint context.
> >
> > OK, that's a great observation, and probably fixable. What were the
> > author's comments when you told him that?
> >
> > > rm -rf in-kernel-irqbalance;
> >
> > It's *very* late in the day to be ripping out such chunks of code.
> > 1. Prove new code works better for you => make it a config option.
> > 2. Prove new code works better for everyone => rip it out.
> >
> > I think we're at 1, not 2.
> >
> > Note that the userspace stuff doesn't even require that the kernel
> > stuff be disabled ... it should just override it (I can believe
> > there maybe is a bug that needs fixing, but it works by design).
> >
> > M.
--
James Cleverdon
IBM xSeries Linux Solutions
{jamesclv(Unix, preferred), cleverdj(Notes)} at us dot ibm dot com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-21 13:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-20 15:41 userspace irq balancer Nakajima, Jun
2003-05-21 13:54 ` James Cleverdon [this message]
2003-05-21 22:56 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
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2003-05-24 1:10 Nakajima, Jun
2003-05-21 21:43 Nakajima, Jun
2003-05-22 0:29 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-05-22 1:28 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-22 1:44 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-05-22 2:03 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-22 2:04 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-22 2:12 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-22 3:57 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-22 17:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-05-22 22:44 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-26 22:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-26 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-26 23:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-26 23:43 ` David S. Miller
[not found] ` <20030527000639.GA3767@dualathlon.random>
2003-05-27 0:15 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 0:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 0:48 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 1:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 1:13 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 1:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 6:11 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 11:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 22:04 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 22:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 23:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-13 6:22 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-13 18:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 1:16 ` Dave Jones
2003-05-27 1:17 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 9:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-27 9:10 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 1:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 1:53 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 1:59 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-27 2:10 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 2:15 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-27 2:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 2:45 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-27 4:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 2:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 2:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 2:26 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 1:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 1:20 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 1:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-22 14:18 ` James Cleverdon
2003-05-22 14:43 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-22 15:30 ` James Cleverdon
2003-05-22 15:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-21 16:31 James Bottomley
2003-05-21 20:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] <200305191314.06216.pbadari@us.ibm.com>
2003-05-19 22:07 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-19 22:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 22:22 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-20 3:25 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-20 3:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-20 5:03 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-20 5:53 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-20 6:13 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-20 6:36 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-20 6:40 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-20 14:07 ` Andrew Theurer
2003-05-20 14:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-20 14:35 ` Andrew Theurer
[not found] ` <20030520.163833.104040023.davem@redhat.com>
2003-05-21 14:58 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-21 22:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-21 11:00 ` Kai Bankett
2003-05-20 14:01 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-20 9:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-20 9:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-20 9:17 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20030520.172230.102567463.davem@redhat.com>
2003-05-21 14:27 ` James Cleverdon
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