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From: James Cleverdon <jamesclv@us.ibm.com>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: Gerrit Huizenga <gh@us.ibm.com>,
	"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	haveblue@us.ibm.com, pbadari@us.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, johnstul@us.ibm.com,
	mannthey@us.ibm.com, Andrew Theurer <habanero@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: userspace irq balancer
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 08:30:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200305220830.29592.jamesclv@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030522144306.GQ8978@holomorphy.com>

On Thursday 22 May 2003 07:43 am, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 07:18:06AM -0700, James Cleverdon wrote:
> > Here's my old very stupid TPR patch .  It lacks TPRing soft ints for
> > kernel preemption, etc.  Because the xTPR logic only compares the top
> > nibble of the TPR and I don't want to mask out IRQs unnecessarily, it
> > only tracks busy/idle and IRQ/no-IRQ.
> > Simple enough for you, Bill?   8^)
>
> Simple enough, yes. But I hesitate to endorse it without making sure
> it's not too simple.
>
> It's much closer to the right direction, which is actually following
> hardware docs and then punting the fancy (potentially more performant)
> bits up into userspace. When properly tuned, it should actually have a
> useful interaction with explicit irq balancing via retargeting IO-APIC
> RTE destinations as interrupts targeted at a destination specifying
> multiple cpus won't always target a single cpu when TPR's are adjusted.
>
> The only real issue with the TPR is that it's an spl-like ranking of
> interrupts, assuming a static prioritization based on vector number.
> That doesn't really agree with the Linux model and is undesirable in
> various scenarios; however, it's how the hardware works and so can't
> be avoided (and the disastrous attempt to avoid it didn't DTRT anyway).
>
>
> -- wli

Serial APICs have always had a spl-like effect built into them.  The effective 
TPR value of a given local APIC is:
	max(TPR, highest vector currently in progress) & 0xF0
Parallel APICs don't do that because they don't have serial priority 
arbitration; instead they use the xTPRs in the bridge chips.

So, I suppose an argument could be made for setting the TPR to the vector 
number on entry of do_IRQ.  I don't think that would be a good idea.  It 
could interfere with IRQ nesting during a non-DMA IDE interrupt handler.  And 
of course, an IRQ's vector has little to do with the IRQ itself, thanks to 
the vector hashing scheme used to avoid the (stupid) 2 latches per APIC level 
HW limitation of most i586 and i686 CPUs.


-- 
James Cleverdon
IBM xSeries Linux Solutions
{jamesclv(Unix, preferred), cleverdj(Notes)} at us dot ibm dot com


  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-22 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-21 21:43 userspace irq balancer Nakajima, Jun
2003-05-22  0:29 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-05-22  1:28   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-22  1:44     ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-05-22  2:03       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-22  2:04   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-22  2:12     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-22  3:57     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-22 17:24       ` Bill Davidsen
2003-05-22 22:44         ` David S. Miller
2003-05-26 22:24           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-26 23:26             ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-26 23:34               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-26 23:43                 ` David S. Miller
     [not found]                   ` <20030527000639.GA3767@dualathlon.random>
2003-05-27  0:15                     ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27  0:41                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27  0:48                         ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27  1:09                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27  1:13                             ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27  1:26                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27  6:11                                 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 11:53                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 22:04                                     ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 22:27                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 23:55                                         ` David S. Miller
2003-06-13  6:22                                         ` David S. Miller
2003-06-13 18:23                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27  1:16                             ` Dave Jones
2003-05-27  1:17                               ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27  9:07                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-27  9:10                                   ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27  1:28                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27  1:53                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27  1:59                             ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-27  2:10                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27  2:15                                 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-27  2:44                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27  2:45                                     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-27  4:22                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27  2:15                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27  2:14                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27  2:26                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27  1:17                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27  1:20                   ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27  1:33                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-22 14:18     ` James Cleverdon
2003-05-22 14:43       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-22 15:30         ` James Cleverdon [this message]
2003-05-22 15:45           ` William Lee Irwin III
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-24  1:10 Nakajima, Jun
2003-05-21 16:31 James Bottomley
2003-05-21 20:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-20 15:41 Nakajima, Jun
2003-05-21 13:54 ` James Cleverdon
2003-05-21 22:56   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
     [not found] <200305191314.06216.pbadari@us.ibm.com>
2003-05-19 22:07 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-19 22:11   ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 22:22     ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-20  3:25       ` David S. Miller
2003-05-20  3:46         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-20  5:03           ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-20  5:53             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-20  6:13               ` David S. Miller
2003-05-20  6:36                 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-20  6:40                   ` David S. Miller
2003-05-20 14:07                     ` Andrew Theurer
2003-05-20 14:21                       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-20 14:35                         ` Andrew Theurer
     [not found]                       ` <20030520.163833.104040023.davem@redhat.com>
2003-05-21 14:58                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-21 22:55                           ` David S. Miller
2003-05-21 11:00                     ` Kai Bankett
2003-05-20 14:01                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-20  9:00             ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-20  9:14               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-20  9:17               ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                 ` <20030520.172230.102567463.davem@redhat.com>
2003-05-21 14:27                   ` James Cleverdon

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