From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: akpm@digeo.com, davidsen@tmr.com, haveblue@us.ibm.com,
habanero@us.ibm.com, mbligh@aracnet.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: userspace irq balancer
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 02:41:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030527004115.GD3767@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030526.171527.35691510.davem@redhat.com>
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 05:15:27PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
> One hardirq can equate to thousands of packets worth of softirq load,
> especially with NAPI. And you cannot even know what this ratio is
> (packets processed per hardware IRQ load). It can be anywhere from
> 1 to 1000. And you absolutely do not want to behave identically
> for all such values.
>
> How can you even claim to be taking this into account in a logical
> manner if you cannot even tell me how you will determine how much
> softirq load is created by a hardware irq?
you brought a very funny case ;), agreed! certainly if it's ksoftirqd
with NAPI that is causing the irq move to the next cpu you don't want to
migrate it to the next cpu ksoftirqd will keep following it, rounding
back and forth across all idle cpus (assuming a firwall with many idle
cpus). So basically you're saying that we've to change it to idle() ||
== ksoftirqd (i'll fix it thanks!). The additional check should avoid
the misbehaviour. In 2.4 normally the softirq (of course w/o NAPI) are
served in irq context so we didn't face this yet.
But it doesn't change my basic argument about this topic, that there's
no way in userspace to do anything remotely as accurate as that to boost
system performance to the maximum, especially on big systems. My current
algorithm was a minimal attempt to do something better than the static
(or almost static) bindings with all the info we have in kernel (that
userspace could never use efficiently on a timely basis).
Andrea
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-27 0:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-21 21:43 userspace irq balancer Nakajima, Jun
2003-05-22 0:29 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-05-22 1:28 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-22 1:44 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-05-22 2:03 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-22 2:04 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-22 2:12 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-22 3:57 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-22 17:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-05-22 22:44 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-26 22:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-26 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-26 23:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-26 23:43 ` David S. Miller
[not found] ` <20030527000639.GA3767@dualathlon.random>
2003-05-27 0:15 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 0:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2003-05-27 0:48 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 1:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 1:13 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 1:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 6:11 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 11:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 22:04 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 22:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 23:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-13 6:22 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-13 18:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 1:16 ` Dave Jones
2003-05-27 1:17 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 9:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-27 9:10 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 1:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 1:53 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 1:59 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-27 2:10 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 2:15 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-27 2:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 2:45 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-27 4:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 2:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 2:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 2:26 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 1:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 1:20 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27 1:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-22 14:18 ` James Cleverdon
2003-05-22 14:43 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-22 15:30 ` James Cleverdon
2003-05-22 15:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-24 1:10 Nakajima, Jun
2003-05-21 16:31 James Bottomley
2003-05-21 20:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-20 15:41 Nakajima, Jun
2003-05-21 13:54 ` James Cleverdon
2003-05-21 22:56 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
[not found] <200305191314.06216.pbadari@us.ibm.com>
2003-05-19 22:07 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-19 22:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 22:22 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-20 3:25 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-20 3:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-20 5:03 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-20 5:53 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-20 6:13 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-20 6:36 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-20 6:40 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-20 14:07 ` Andrew Theurer
2003-05-20 14:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-20 14:35 ` Andrew Theurer
[not found] ` <20030520.163833.104040023.davem@redhat.com>
2003-05-21 14:58 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-21 22:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-21 11:00 ` Kai Bankett
2003-05-20 14:01 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-20 9:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-20 9:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-20 9:17 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20030520.172230.102567463.davem@redhat.com>
2003-05-21 14:27 ` James Cleverdon
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