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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BK PATCHES] add ata scsi driver
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:16:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030527161624.GC21744@gtf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1054051233.1975.139.camel@mulgrave>

On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 12:00:28PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 11:50, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > Oh, no question.  My main interest is having a persistent id for a
> > device's media.  Then Linux can use that to allow mapping in case device
> > names or majors change at each boot (and similar situations).
> 
> Well, OK, that's not an in-kernel issue.

It's definitely an in-kernel issue, because the mapping is in-kernel now:

	<major,minor> -> queue


> My current thought for this is that deriving the unique name can be
> awfully device specific (even in SCSI there are several fallback methods
> plus the usual black/white list of things that don't quite return
> entirely unique objects).

Agreed.  And kernel assistance is likely necessary in many cases to
obtain the unique id, even if it's only userspace that's reading it.


> Thus, I think the derivation probably belongs
> in userspace as part of hotplug.  Once the unique ID is determined, it
> could be written to a well known place in the sysfs tree for all the
> rest of the OS (things like udev for persistent device naming) to use.

Agreed, with the above proviso.

	Jeff





  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-27 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-26 18:12 [BK PATCHES] add ata scsi driver James Bottomley
2003-05-26 18:18 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 18:47   ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 19:07     ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 19:17       ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 19:33         ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 12:39           ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 14:26             ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 17:16               ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 18:09                 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 18:21                   ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 18:30                     ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 20:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 20:36           ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 20:45             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 20:51               ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 20:56               ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 20:38           ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 20:49             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 20:57               ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 21:34                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 23:58                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-05-27  0:09                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27  0:49                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-05-27  0:16                   ` Alan Cox
2003-05-27  6:54                   ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 14:20                     ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 14:36                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27 14:59                       ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 15:21                         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-27 15:38                           ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 15:50                             ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-27 16:00                               ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 16:16                                 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-05-28  9:35                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-28 10:50                           ` Lincoln Dale
2003-05-27 19:43                       ` Jens Axboe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-26  4:58 Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26  5:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26  5:30   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26  5:36     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26  5:42       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26  6:01         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 16:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 17:47             ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 20:09               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27  0:29                 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-27  6:07                 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-27  6:30                   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27  6:51                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27  7:29                       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26  5:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26  5:53       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26  6:21         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 16:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 17:24             ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 17:54               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 17:59               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 18:11                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27  0:22       ` Alan Cox
2003-05-27  4:15         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 10:32     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-05-26 11:13       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 11:37         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-05-26  5:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-05-26  6:03   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-06-02  9:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-02 13:56   ` Alan Cox

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