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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>
To: Ricky Beam <jfbeam@bluetronic.net>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.5.70
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:18:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030527191818.GC19265@fs.tum.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0305271402420.4448-100000@sweetums.bluetronic.net>

On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 02:09:43PM -0400, Ricky Beam wrote:
> 
> Allow me to clarify... I don't mind drivers not working.  I *do* mind
> drivers emitting hundreds of warnings and errors because dozens of things
> were changed and no one cared to update everything they broke.  In some
> cases, fixing things may be simple (eg. someone removed or renamed a field
> in a struct somewhere) and in others years of work my be required (eg.
> the new module interface.)

Many warnings are for problems that were already present in 2.4 or for
using deprecated (IOW: working) functions. It might be a thought to
probably disable deprecated warnings for stable kernel releases (read
2.6.0, 2.6.1,...) but it's not always a measurement for how far away we
are from 2.6. And besides, a full build of 2.4.20 with gcc 2.95 gives
you 103 warnings.

> In my opinion (as it was in the long long ago), everything in a "stable"
> release should at least compile cleanly -- "working" comes later after
> users have been conned into using it.

IMHO compiling and non-working (or worse: working but data-corrupting) 
is worse than non-compiling. It might be a good idea to let broken 
drivers depend on an (undefined) CONFIG_BROKEN, but this is only a minor 
detail with no influence on the 2.6 schedule.

> --Ricky

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-27 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-27  2:08 Linux 2.5.70 Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27  2:45 ` Linux 2.5.70 (Compiler warnings) Udo A. Steinberg
2003-05-27  3:09   ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2003-05-27  7:10     ` David S. Miller
2003-05-27  8:48 ` Linux 2.5.70 compile error DevilKin
2003-05-27 13:05   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 15:29     ` DevilKin-LKML
2003-05-27 15:36       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 15:48         ` John Stoffel
2003-05-27 15:52           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 16:35             ` John Stoffel
2003-05-27 16:43               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 17:50                 ` John Stoffel
2003-05-27 17:56                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 21:56                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-27 18:19           ` Roman Zippel
2003-05-27 18:40             ` Dave Jones
2003-05-27 18:50               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 21:59               ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-27 23:40                 ` Dave Jones
2003-05-28  3:20                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-28  3:34                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-28  6:11                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-28  7:43                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-28 15:28                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-29  1:14                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-28  6:52                   ` Dave Jones
2003-05-28 22:08                 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-05-29  0:36                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-27 19:46             ` John Stoffel
2003-05-27 15:38       ` Sean Neakums
2003-05-27 15:52         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-27 16:58 ` Linux 2.5.70 Ricky Beam
2003-05-27 17:26   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27 16:48     ` Alan Cox
2003-05-27 17:53       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27 21:15         ` Hans Reiser
2003-05-27 18:09     ` Ricky Beam
2003-05-27 18:22       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-27 18:31       ` Robert Love
2003-05-27 19:18       ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2003-05-28 16:08       ` Bill Davidsen
2003-05-28 15:58     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-05-28 16:14       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-28 19:22         ` ismail (cartman) donmez
2003-05-29 11:14           ` Dave Jones
2003-05-29 11:14             ` ismail (cartman) donmez
2003-05-28 22:40         ` Bill Davidsen
2003-05-27 21:06   ` Andreas Boman
2003-05-28  2:30   ` Daniel Phillips
2003-05-27 21:42 ` John Cherry
2003-05-28 17:55   ` John Cherry
2003-05-28  5:45 ` [PATCH] register_ioctl32_conversion symbol exports fix Andres Salomon
     [not found]   ` <20030528074701.GA17449@fs.tum.de>
2003-05-28  8:05     ` Andres Salomon
2003-05-28 14:59 ` Linux 2.5.70 Paweł Gołaszewski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-27  5:13 Louis Garcia
     [not found] <200305271012.h4RACbE04869@quatramaran.ens.fr>
2003-05-27 10:15 ` Éric Brunet
     [not found] <mailman.1054055041.7585.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2003-05-27 21:25 ` Pete Zaitcev
2003-05-28 15:08 Petr Vandrovec
2003-05-28 15:56 ` Paweł Gołaszewski

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