From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
axboe@suse.de, m.c.p@wolk-project.de, kernel@kolivas.org,
manish@storadinc.com, marcelo@conectiva.com.br,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.20: Proccess stuck in __lock_page ...
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 15:19:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030529131937.GJ1453@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030528121040.GA1193@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:10:40PM +0200, Matthias Mueller wrote:
> Tested all of them and some combinations:
> patch 1 alone: still mouse hangs
> patch 2 alone: still mouse hangs
> patch 3 alone: no hangs, but I get some zombie process (starting a lot of
> xterms results in zombie xterms, not noticed with vanilla
> and the other patches)
> patch 1+2: no mouse hangs
> patch 1+2+3: no mouse hangs, no zombies
I can't find a sense in the zombie thing, how can you generate zombie at
all from xterms? That sounds like your userspace is terribly broken and
it may have race conditions or whatever. In no way those patches can
generate or not-generate zombies from xterms. I never ever seen a zombie
xterm in my whole linux experience.
either that or the GUI is doing something intentionally to try to reduce
the number of wait4 syscalls to the miniumum colescing the wait4, but
that would be very bad design of the GUI software since you're not going
to start an xterm (or whatever else window) a every millisecond, so it
would be very pointless and confusing, I certainly wouldn't like it.
(the wait4 thing I don't love it even in the servers where it might
be accepted as a microoptimization)
It's impossible to trust the rest of the report while hearing about such
a fundamental brekage in the core of your GUI, the mouse hangs could be
just an userspace bug that triggers when some timing changes in presence
of writes, or whatever. So please install an userspace that never
generates zombie xterm ever, and see if you can reproduce still.
Andrea
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-29 13:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-27 3:41 2.4.20: Proccess stuck in __lock_page manish
2003-05-27 4:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 4:25 ` manish
2003-05-27 4:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 15:29 ` manish
2003-05-27 16:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 4:31 ` manish
2003-05-27 14:14 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-27 14:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 17:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 17:36 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 17:47 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 17:52 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 17:57 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 18:08 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 18:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 18:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 18:39 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 19:00 ` manish
2003-05-27 19:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 19:09 ` manish
2003-05-27 19:12 ` manish
2003-05-27 19:28 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 19:34 ` manish
2003-05-27 20:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:25 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 20:42 ` manish
2003-05-27 20:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:50 ` manish
2003-05-27 21:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 20:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 22:18 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-27 22:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 22:40 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-27 22:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:08 ` Chris Mason
2003-05-27 18:35 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 20:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:24 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 20:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:53 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 21:00 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 21:11 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 21:19 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 20:55 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 21:05 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 21:18 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 21:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 18:09 ` manish
2003-05-27 17:53 ` manish
2003-05-27 18:01 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 18:16 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 18:25 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 18:12 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-27 17:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 17:38 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-27 17:50 ` manish
2003-05-27 18:04 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 23:06 ` Georg Nikodym
2003-05-27 23:26 ` Christopher S. Aker
2003-05-28 5:33 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-28 6:04 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 7:13 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-28 7:13 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 7:32 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 7:35 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 7:51 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-28 8:30 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 8:43 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 8:40 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 10:13 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-28 10:18 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 10:23 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-28 10:25 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 10:48 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-28 10:50 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 10:59 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-28 11:17 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 11:27 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-28 11:31 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 12:53 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 12:58 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-28 13:07 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-28 13:08 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 13:16 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-28 13:21 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-28 13:30 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-28 13:33 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-28 13:27 ` Stefan Foerster
2003-05-28 13:37 ` Stefan Foerster
2003-05-28 14:28 ` Chris Mason
2003-05-28 14:33 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 14:58 ` Chris Mason
2003-05-28 15:39 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 23:38 ` Chris Mason
2003-05-28 13:25 ` Stefan Foerster
2003-05-28 18:19 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-28 18:32 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-28 18:47 ` Elladan
2003-05-28 23:03 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-29 13:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-29 15:04 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-29 16:23 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 11:41 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-29 12:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-28 11:03 ` Nick Piggin
2003-05-28 10:29 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-28 10:29 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 12:10 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-28 12:14 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-28 12:21 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-28 12:23 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-28 12:28 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-28 12:38 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-29 13:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2003-05-29 14:10 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-29 16:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-28 14:00 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-29 13:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-29 13:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-05-29 14:09 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-29 14:38 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-29 16:10 ` Willy TARREAU
2003-05-29 14:45 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-29 16:06 ` Willy TARREAU
2003-05-29 16:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-29 17:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-05-29 16:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-29 1:32 ` manish
2003-05-28 10:24 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 7:16 ` Marc Wilson
2003-05-28 19:53 ` David Ford
2003-05-28 9:36 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2003-05-28 9:45 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 9:53 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 10:01 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 10:58 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-29 8:34 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
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2003-05-28 18:55 ` Thomas Tonino
2003-06-02 10:43 ` Jens Axboe
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