From: Frank Cusack <fcusack@fcusack.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@work.bitmover.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM]
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:04:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030620170446.C28636@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030620142436.GB14404@work.bitmover.com>; from lm@bitmover.com on Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 07:24:36AM -0700
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 07:24:36AM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> I've said for years that the open source world is all about
> reimplementing and not about new innovation.
Almost spot-on.
Where it's off is
- It's not ALL about reimplenting. Didn't Solaris' prstat come AFTER top?
Anyway I'm sure there are lots of examples here, maybe not LARGE pieces
of code (although I'll point to TeX since every exception needs an
exception as well), but I think you discount open source innovation
too much. All of the ATTENTION is on the bits that are reimplementations
because that's how mass markets work.
- Just because two people independenty implement something doesn't mean
one of them is REimplementing.
Isn't bk simply a reimplementation of p4 by your argument?
/fc
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2003-05-30 8:04 SCO's claims seem empty Martin List-Petersen
2003-05-30 13:01 ` Paul Rolland
2003-05-30 20:20 ` Mark Mielke
2003-05-31 23:06 ` brian
2003-06-01 7:56 ` Paul Rolland
2003-06-01 9:22 ` Lionel Elie Mamane
2003-06-01 9:38 ` Markus Plail
2003-06-01 9:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-06-01 9:40 ` Riley Williams
2003-06-01 10:00 ` Michael Frank
2003-06-02 0:03 ` Horst von Brand
2003-06-01 9:40 ` Nicolas Vollmar
2003-06-01 9:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-01 9:55 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-06-01 9:56 ` Michael Frank
2003-06-01 12:34 ` Paul Rolland
2003-06-01 12:52 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-02 0:15 ` Martin List-Petersen
2003-06-02 1:19 ` Horst von Brand
2003-06-02 11:10 ` uaca
2003-06-02 11:24 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2003-06-06 12:31 ` Martin List-Petersen
2003-06-06 15:13 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-06 16:22 ` Paul Rolland
2003-06-06 17:20 ` Richard B. Johnson
[not found] ` <5.2.0.9.2.20030607044649.00cd4590@pop.gmx.net>
2003-06-18 17:36 ` Sco vs. IBM Martin List-Petersen
2003-06-18 17:58 ` Luigi Rosa
2003-06-18 19:07 ` James Simmons
2003-06-18 19:19 ` Rick Franchuk
2003-06-18 19:39 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-18 19:53 ` Martin List-Petersen
2003-06-18 20:28 ` Tom Diehl
2003-06-18 21:04 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-19 0:20 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-19 11:04 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-19 12:00 ` Magnus Solvang
2003-06-19 12:45 ` jdow
2003-06-19 12:57 ` Magnus Solvang
2003-06-19 13:03 ` Martin List-Petersen
2003-06-19 13:14 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-19 13:29 ` Thorsten Körner
2003-06-19 23:39 ` jdow
2003-06-19 14:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-06-19 16:34 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-06-19 16:59 ` Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM] Larry McVoy
2003-06-19 17:13 ` ismail (cartman) donmez
2003-06-20 3:12 ` [OT] " Werner Almesberger
2003-06-20 10:09 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-20 14:24 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-20 14:30 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-20 14:59 ` Michael Poole
2003-06-20 15:34 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-20 15:50 ` Lawrence Walton
2003-06-20 16:02 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-20 16:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-06-20 16:33 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-21 1:31 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-21 12:20 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-21 13:38 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-21 14:10 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-21 17:05 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-21 17:54 ` David Weinehall
2003-06-23 8:54 ` David Woodhouse
2003-06-23 13:22 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-23 13:32 ` David Woodhouse
2003-06-23 13:37 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-23 14:04 ` David Woodhouse
2003-06-23 14:09 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-23 14:26 ` David Woodhouse
2003-06-24 9:51 ` David Blomber
2003-06-23 13:54 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-06-23 13:58 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-23 15:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-06-23 15:40 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-23 16:13 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-23 14:30 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-06-23 15:06 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-23 15:32 ` David Woodhouse
2003-06-23 15:39 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-23 15:59 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-23 16:13 ` David Woodhouse
2003-06-26 17:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-06-26 18:40 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-26 19:10 ` David Weinehall
2003-06-26 19:13 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-27 12:51 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-23 15:43 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-23 15:59 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-23 16:36 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-23 19:16 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-23 16:02 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-06-23 16:11 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-23 16:16 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-23 16:35 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-24 22:29 ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-24 18:18 ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-20 17:02 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-20 23:27 ` Paul Mackerras
2003-06-20 16:41 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-20 16:45 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-20 19:35 ` John Alvord
2003-06-21 13:46 ` Paul Jakma
2003-06-23 12:23 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-20 14:44 ` Nick LeRoy
2003-06-20 15:17 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-20 15:49 ` Nick LeRoy
2003-06-20 16:58 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-20 17:01 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-20 17:21 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-20 15:18 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-20 15:24 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-20 15:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-06-23 19:30 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-25 0:31 ` Robert White
2003-06-25 1:21 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-25 3:35 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-25 3:37 ` Werner Almesberger
[not found] ` <PEEPIDHAKMCGHDBJLHKGKECCDBAA.rwhite@casabyte.com>
2003-06-25 3:49 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-25 10:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-06-25 11:32 ` David Woodhouse
2003-06-25 22:47 ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-26 0:07 ` Robert White
2003-06-26 0:27 ` David Lang
2003-06-26 1:09 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-26 3:29 ` Robert White
2003-06-26 13:44 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-26 7:18 ` David Schwartz
2003-06-26 11:20 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-26 3:24 ` Paul Jakma
2003-06-26 11:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-06-26 13:54 ` Horst von Brand
2003-06-26 22:34 ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-26 22:55 ` Robert White
2003-06-25 20:35 ` Robert White
2003-06-25 21:09 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-25 23:05 ` David Schwartz
2003-06-26 1:14 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-26 2:45 ` David Schwartz
2003-06-26 3:16 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-26 3:38 ` Robert White
2003-06-26 3:50 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-26 12:20 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-06-26 14:45 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-26 15:16 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-06-26 22:49 ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-27 1:17 ` David Schwartz
2003-06-27 1:24 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-26 10:50 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-26 20:41 ` Robert White
2003-06-26 20:50 ` David Lang
2003-06-26 21:02 ` Robert White
2003-06-26 23:45 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-27 0:14 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-27 0:24 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-27 0:57 ` Robert White
2003-06-27 11:40 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-30 18:20 ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-26 20:52 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-26 21:39 ` Robert White
2003-06-26 22:48 ` John Alvord
2003-06-26 21:50 ` Robert White
2003-06-27 11:00 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-25 21:27 ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-21 12:28 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-20 15:46 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-20 17:31 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-21 7:37 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-21 12:34 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-21 12:55 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-21 13:06 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-21 13:11 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-06-23 12:16 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-23 12:44 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-23 13:05 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-20 16:27 ` Helge Hafting
2003-06-21 7:50 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-21 21:49 ` [OT] Troll Tech Jan Rychter
2003-06-21 22:02 ` Russell King
2003-06-22 1:47 ` Horst von Brand
2003-06-22 14:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-06-22 9:24 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-06-23 13:06 ` [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM] Krzysztof Halasa
2003-06-20 19:36 ` Greg KH
2003-06-20 20:12 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-21 0:04 ` Frank Cusack [this message]
2003-06-21 0:46 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-21 8:01 ` Martin Diehl
2003-06-21 11:39 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-21 11:53 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-21 12:08 ` Andrey Panin
2003-06-21 19:03 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-06-21 19:54 ` Michael Poole
2003-06-21 22:13 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-22 1:12 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-06-22 10:30 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-06-23 2:00 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-19 20:54 ` Sco vs. IBM Robin Rosenberg
2003-06-21 8:03 ` Holger Freyther
2003-06-21 8:12 ` Martin Diehl
2003-06-19 12:08 ` Thorsten Körner
2003-06-19 14:59 ` Bruce Ferrell
[not found] ` <3EF0ABB8.40007@coyotegulch.com>
2003-06-18 18:17 ` Martin List-Petersen
2003-06-19 6:54 ` Dominik Kubla
2003-06-18 18:37 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-06-18 21:43 ` Grzegorz Jaskiewicz
2003-06-06 22:17 ` SCO's claims seem empty Martin List-Petersen
2003-06-06 22:33 ` Rob Landley
2003-06-12 10:20 ` Martin List-Petersen
2003-06-02 11:39 ` Marcus Metzler
2003-06-03 0:42 ` Raimundo Bilbao
2003-05-30 21:16 ` SCO's claims seem empty - Open Source Initiative Paper by Eric Raymond Piet Delaney
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0306201101240.3705-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2003-06-20 15:09 ` [OT] Re: Troll Tech [was Re: Sco vs. IBM] Nick LeRoy
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-20 17:12 Watson, Craig
2003-06-20 17:38 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-20 17:48 Michael Kalus
2003-06-20 20:28 ` Martin List-Petersen
2003-06-20 20:32 Michael Kalus
2003-06-20 21:04 Tom Lord
2003-06-21 1:22 marcelo
2003-06-26 22:05 Mudama, Eric
2003-06-26 22:19 ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-26 22:21 ` Robert White
2003-06-27 15:08 Watson, Craig
2003-06-27 23:15 ` Robert White
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