From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: J?rn Engel <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jmorris@intercode.com.au,
davem@redhat.com, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Breaking data compatibility with userspace bzlib
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:09:57 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030620190957.GA19988@gtf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030620185915.GD28711@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 08:59:15PM +0200, J?rn Engel wrote:
> Now, the cost of the underlying BWT is O(n) in memory and O(n*ln(n))
> in time. That given, I consider it odd to use a linear semantic of
> blockSizeXXXX and would prefer an exponential one, as the zlib uses
> here and there. Thus blockSizeBits would now give the blockSize as
> 1 << blockSizeBits, allowing to go well below 100k, resulting in lower
> memory consumption for some and well above 900k, giving better
> compression ratios.
>
>
> Long intro, short question: Jay O Nay?
The big question is whether the bzip2 better compression is actually
useful in a kernel context? Patches to do bzip2 for initrd, for
example, have been around for ages:
http://gtf.org/garzik/kernel/files/initrd-bzip2-2.2.13-2.patch.gz
But the compression and decompression overhead is _much_ larger
than gzip. It was so huge for maximal compression that dialing back
compression reaching a point of diminishing returns rather quickly,
when compared to gzip memory usage and compression.
I talked a bit with the bzip2 author a while ago about memory usage.
He eventually added the capability to only require small blocks
for decompression (64K IIRC?), but there was a significant loss in
compression factor.
So... even in 2003, I really don't know of many (any?) tasks which
would benefit from bzip2, considering the additional memory and
cpu overhead.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-06-20 18:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-06-20 18:59 [RFC] Breaking data compatibility with userspace bzlib Jörn Engel
2003-06-20 19:09 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-06-20 19:45 ` Jörn Engel
2003-06-20 19:48 ` David Lang
2003-06-20 20:05 ` Jörn Engel
2003-06-20 21:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-06-20 21:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-06-20 20:27 ` [RFC] Breaking data compatibility with userspace bz2lib Nicholas Wourms
2003-06-20 20:51 ` Jörn Engel
2003-06-20 21:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-06-20 19:45 ` [RFC] Breaking data compatibility with userspace bzlib David S. Miller
2003-06-20 19:56 ` Jörn Engel
2003-06-20 20:23 ` David S. Miller
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