From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
Joel.Becker@oracle.com, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What to expect with the 2.6 VM
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:27:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030701092758.GC3040@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030701085939.GG20413@holomorphy.com>
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 01:59:39AM -0700, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> After observing that, the benchmark is flawed because
> (a) it doesn't run long enough to produce stable numbers
> (b) the results are apparently measured with gettimeofday(), which is
> wildly inaccurate for such short-lived phenomena
> (c) large differences in performance appear to come about as a result
> of differing versions of common programs (i.e. gcc)
not enough time right now to answer the whole email which is growing and
growing in size ;), but I wanted to add a quick comment on this. many
shell loads happens to do something similar, and the speed of
compilation will be a very important factor until you rewrite make and
gcc not to exit and to compile multiple files from a single invocation.
The fact is that this is not a flawed benchmark, this is a real life
workload that you can't avoid to deal with, and I want my kernel to run
the fastest on the most common apps I run. I don't mind if swapping is
slightly slower, I simply don't swap all the time for the whole system
time, while I tend to keep the cpu 100% busy always. Still I want the
best possible swapping that is zerocost for me on the other side. Giving
me a CONFIG_SLOWSWAP_FAST_GCC would be more than enough to make me
happy. I don't think I'll resist to the rmap slowdown while migrating to
2.6 if it keeps showing up in the profiling. Especially Martin's number
were not good.
Andrea
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-07-01 9:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-07-01 1:39 What to expect with the 2.6 VM Mel Gorman
2003-06-30 17:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-01 20:10 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-01 21:41 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-01 21:51 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-01 21:58 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 9:01 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-01 2:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 3:02 ` Andrew Morton
2003-07-01 3:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 3:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 3:29 ` Rik van Riel
2003-07-01 4:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 11:01 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-07-01 3:25 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-01 4:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 6:33 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-01 7:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 8:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-01 9:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2003-07-01 12:09 ` severe problem of linux 2.4.21 usb tu guangxiu
2003-07-01 14:24 ` What to expect with the 2.6 VM Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-01 16:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-01 17:54 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 3:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-01 21:45 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-01 22:06 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-01 21:46 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-02 3:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 15:57 ` Mel Gorman
2003-07-02 17:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 17:10 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 17:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 17:52 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 18:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 18:05 ` Rik van Riel
2003-07-02 20:05 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 21:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-02 21:48 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-02 22:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-02 22:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 22:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-02 22:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 23:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-02 23:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 23:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 11:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 11:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 12:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 13:06 ` Rik van Riel
2003-07-03 13:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 18:53 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 19:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 19:32 ` Rik van Riel
2003-07-03 20:16 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 0:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-04 1:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 2:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-04 4:10 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 5:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-04 8:15 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 23:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-05 0:05 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05 0:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 18:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-03 18:54 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 19:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-03 22:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 0:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-04 1:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-04 1:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 6:54 ` Garbage collectors and VM (was Re: What to expect with the 2.6 VM) Zack Weinberg
2003-07-04 12:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-04 16:13 ` Garbage collectors and VM Zack Weinberg
2003-07-03 19:06 ` What to expect with the 2.6 VM Andrew Morton
2003-07-03 19:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-02 18:07 ` Rik van Riel
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