From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>
To: Tomas Szepe <szepe@pinerecords.com>
Cc: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>,
Riley@Williams.Name, Linux-Kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] let broken drivers depend on BROKEN{,ON_SMP}
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:47:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030802194705.GF16426@fs.tum.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030731091525.GI12849@louise.pinerecords.com>
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:15:25AM +0200, Tomas Szepe wrote:
> > [bunk@fs.tum.de]
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:04:03PM +0200, Tomas Szepe wrote:
> > > > [bunk@fs.tum.de]
> > > >
> > > > If a _user_ of a stable kernel notices "it doesn't even compile" this
> > > > gives a very bad impression of the quality of the Linux kernel.
> > >
> > > The keyword in this sentence is "stable."
> > > Could you maybe come up with this again at around 2.6.40? :)
> >
> > The first stable kernel of the 2.6 kernel series will be 2.6.0.
>
> There are going to be a zillion drivers that don't compile by the
> time 2.6.0 is released, which is precisely when lkml will see a whole
> new wave of people willing to fix things so I really don't think
> hiding the problems behind CONFIG_BROKEN or whatever is reasonable.
Note that we aren't talking about problems that ae easy to fix, such
problems are already fixed. We are talking about drivers that are broken
for many months.
Besides this, "a whole new wave of people willing to fix things" isn't
necessarily positive - for several of the broken drivers there were
alredy broken "fixes" posted. Some of these drivers need a non-trivial
fix by someone who knows what he is doing.
> Tomas Szepe <szepe@pinerecords.com>
cu
Adrian
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-08-02 19:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-07-30 9:11 [2.6 patch] let broken drivers depend on BROKEN{,ON_SMP} John Bradford
2003-07-30 10:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-30 16:04 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-07-30 16:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-31 9:15 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-08-02 19:47 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2003-08-13 14:50 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-08-13 15:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 19:17 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-08-13 21:06 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-08-17 9:39 ` Rob Landley
2003-08-18 23:03 ` Bill Davidsen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-08-17 21:27 John Bradford
2003-08-14 5:28 John Bradford
2003-08-13 20:40 John Bradford
2003-08-13 21:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-31 9:41 John Bradford
2003-08-02 19:48 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-30 11:29 John Bradford
2003-07-30 11:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-30 11:53 ` Jan Evert van Grootheest
2003-07-29 19:59 Adrian Bunk
2003-07-30 7:44 ` Riley Williams
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