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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] O11int for interactivity
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 22:02:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030805050250.GP32488@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200308050454.h754sBqM004950@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:38:34 +1000, Nick Piggin said:
>> Of course some minimum read _latency_ would be required: this
>> could actually be done easily with strace come to think of it.
>> Maybe some xmms mapped memory is being swapped out? But that
>> would be more of a VM problem.

On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 12:54:10AM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> I was seeing some CPU-related pauses, but once Con's work got to O7 or so,
> those disappeared.   I'm *quite* convinced that the remaining glitches
> are VM related, mostly because every glitch seems to be associated with
> an increase in the 'pswpout' field in /proc/vmstat (yes, I tested
> with stuff like "for (;;)  do cat /proc/vmstat; sleep 1 done;".

Could I get logs of the stuff?


On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 12:54:10AM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> The *odd* part is that the pgpgin, pgpgout, and pswpin numbers do
> *NOT* seem to be correlated.  High I/O loads from read/write don't
> seem to cause a problem - untarring the Linux distro won't do it,
> running badblocks won't do it. But if somebody has to swap out, all
> hell breaks loose...

Is the swapfile/partition on the same disk as the music? Is the disk IDE?


On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 12:54:10AM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> Hmm.. looking at mm/page_io.c, it seems swap_writepage() calls
> get_swap_bio with GFP_NOIO, while readdpage() uses GFP_KERNEL. I
> wonder if that GFP_NOIO is causing ugliness - that's really
> __GFP_WAIT, and the comments in bio_alloc() are pretty clear that it
> can block.  And remember we're not getting into this code unless
> we're already under memory pressure....
> (And if somebody tells me how to instrument a -test2-mm4 kernel so I
> can tell if I'm on crack or not, I'll happily do so....)

Well, sleepometer is around, but probably needs merging.


-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-05  5:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-30  0:38 [PATCH] O11int for interactivity Con Kolivas
2003-07-30  0:55 ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-30  1:08   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-31 13:55     ` Szonyi Calin
2003-07-31 13:56       ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-31 15:21       ` Måns Rullgård
2003-07-31 21:38       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-31 22:01         ` Robert Love
2003-07-30  8:29 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-30  8:43   ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-30  9:38     ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-30  9:45       ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-30 12:56       ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-30 13:14         ` Wade
2003-07-31 21:43     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-31 21:55       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-01 10:44       ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-08-02 21:27         ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-08-02 22:55           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-02 23:19             ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-08-04 19:06               ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-08-04 19:53                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  0:56                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05  2:41                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  3:07                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05  3:13                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  3:23                           ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05  3:31                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  3:38                               ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05  4:54                                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-08-05  5:02                                   ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2003-08-05  5:55                                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-05  7:11                                     ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05 17:00                                     ` Martin Josefsson
2003-07-30  8:41 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-30  9:35   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-30 15:33 ` Apurva Mehta
2003-07-31 16:58 ` Moritz Muehlenhoff
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-30 10:31 Voluspa
2003-07-30 10:51 ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-30 11:20   ` Eugene Teo

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